DIscount condition types mapping to value field (+/-)

Hi,
1)While mapping SD condition types to Copa value fields, do we need to check the transfer +/- symbol for all discount condition types...
or when do we need to check it..
2) In our case we have some 4 to 5 discount condition types mapped to copa... If we check that symbol, as discount will always be negative system is posting discount values in negative in copa. At the time of report execution, since we give formula as Sales Less discount and discount is already negative in system it is getting added... so we are planning to change formula as sales + discounts... is that approach is right?
Reg
Karthik

Hi Ajay,
Thanks for your quick reply... generally for which condition types do we need to check this indicator in ke4i... for all discount condition types and rounding off condition types... is that right? Because as I told we have some 4 to 5 discount condition types and we have ticked for only one discount condition type which is mostly used...
Reg
Karthik

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Hi,
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<b>Alternative Calculation Type:</b>
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I would like to know how can the below requirement be acheived.
There are three discount condition types: ABC, XYZ and 123. The discount percentage of 123 is fixed as 10% (in condition records)
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If th sum of condition types ABC & XZY is lesser than 10% then system should subtract the sum from 10 % (eg. ABC 3%, XYZ 2% then 123 should be 5% (2+3-10)
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Hi there,
Try this.
Define your pricing procedure like this:
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40 Discount Sum
50 123
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Hi All
I have 3 key combinations in my Discount Condition Type. I have maintained records at all the 3 key combinations and all the records are relevant for a sales. In my sales order all the relevant records (all 3 records) getting displayed, but for calculation all the three discounts are considered. I do not want use exclusive concept in access sequence.
But when i use the same access sequence for Base Price, it is behaving deferrently, where whatever record is found at the last is getting considered for calculation.
Please give your valuable comments.
Your inputs are appreciated.
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Dear Friend,
If you have specified the various Discounts under the three access Sequence .
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Pradeep,
Am sure user might have deleted the condition type in sales order, the same condition type woudl have entered manually in invoice.
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