Discoverer and Data Modeler Integration

Discoverer has the ability to load tables or views into BA from Designer Dictionary. Is there such an ability with Data Modeler or Oracle SQL Developer?

Hello
Interesting question. As far as I know this is not possible. You might want to ask Oracle Support though as it may be something that has not been tried yet works.
Best wishes
Michael

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I tried to access the new SQL Developer and Data Modeler links posted in the April 1 message (and on the Oracle site) from a couple of machines with no luck (empty zip files) - is there an update to the links?
Thanks!
Tomo

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Integration of SQL Developer and Data Modelling - concerns.

In aanother thread about OSDM connections, I commented that the development team for OSDM and the core product seem to separate and Sue responded.
Sue Harper wrote:
A clarification of the Data Modeling feedback application and this forum. The developers are part of the SQL Developer development team, but as for all our features, each developer has a focus area, so the Data Modeling developers will tend to answer those questions. The reason I said that they seem to be separate as that ODSM seems to be put together completely differently. I hit another example today. I downloaded a fresh copy of osdm without JDK. On starting it up, it complained it couldn't find a jre and quit. There was no prompt to specify the location as there is with SQLDevloper and there are no configuration files to edit.
SQLDeveloper already has issues with different components doing the same differently. The number of problems has been reduced but it has taken some time and I am concerned that the introduction of a large body of new code will cause things to revert to the bad old days in terms of quality.
I may or may not end up using OSDM, but I want to have the choice. I don't want components I don't use becoming part of the application and adding bloat. The migration components are a case in point. The "migration workbench" ought to be a completely separate add-in rather than a core component and I hope this is down with OSDM.

Jim,
"I don't want components I don't use becoming part of the application and adding bloat." Absolutely. and we agree. SQL Developer Data Modeling will be a separate standalone product so that users who don't want to use SQL Developer, but who do want to model will have that option. The nice thing about an integrated solution is that if you are doing database work and then want to do some modeling, you are in one tool. Our current plans are to release the standalone product in the initial production release and then follow that with the extension to SQL Developer depending on the customer demand. We do plan to release a read only viewer as part of SQL Developer 2.0. This will be an extension, which like the Migration extension, you can switch off. and from your note, you'd prefer the reverse, that these new extensions are pieces you choose to include and not choose to exclude.
I'm not certain we'll get agreement on this, but I'll be interested. Just this morning I was updating a thread were the request was for all the pieces to be there working out of the box.
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Report locale, subtemplates and Data Model

Hi,
I have the following situation:
We have 4 templates according to language, with french the default language:
- FR: template.rtf
- NL: template_nl.rtf
- DE: template_de.rtf
- EN: template_en.rtf
The report locale is enough for BI Publisher to select the correct template, so that's OK.
Some data from our database is also based on locale (eg street names and cities).
Question 1: is it possible to use the current locale as parameter for the (sql) data model in some way (eg by using a specific parameter name)? For now we set the report locale to the correct language AND we send that same value through as a parameter. It would be cleaner to just set the report locale and be able to use that value in some way.
Question 2: all of the above templates have a footer that's being reused, each also share the same data model, but the data is again based on the current locale.
so: footer.rtf, footer_nl.rtf, footer_de.rtf and footer_en.rtf. Do I need to import all of these in their respective files or will localisation work (I doubt it)?
Question 3: Is there a way to implicitly pass all parameters that were passed to the main template, also pass to the subtemplates? (eg LANG parameter is passed to template_nl.rtf, who can use it in his data model, is there a way to automatically make LANG available for footer_nl.rtf's data model or do I need to explicitly pass it as a parameter in the <?call-template: footer?>) - again if the report locale is available in some way to the data model, it would be easy.
Thanks in advance

Hello,
Probably the easiest would be to use an OnDemand Process and some AJAX to pull your data into the extjs object.
Here's an example of an OnDemand Process.
http://apex.oracle.com/pls/otn/f?p=11933:11
For data the easiest at the moment would be probably to use the Oracle XML functions to generate your data in XML and use that as your data feed.
You might want to take a look the new Interactive Reports included in APEX 3.1, while extjs has alot of functions there is a bit of setup involved , while the Interactive Reports all you need is a SQL query http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/application_express/html/irrs.html
You should search the forum for extjs as there has been quite a few successful integrations of APEX and extjs / YUI / jQuery etc.
Regards,
Carl
blog : http://carlback.blogspot.com/
apex examples : http://apex.oracle.com/pls/otn/f?p=11933:5

SQL Developer Data Modeler - integration with subversion

I just discovered the release of SQL Developer Data modeler, and found this to be very interesting.
We are still using Oracle Designer for database design, but we are looking for a replacement (for several reasons).
My question is quite simple:
Given that the modeler uses a filebased repository, and also given that we have several developers potentially working on a data-model at the same time, how does Data Modeler integrate with subversion for source control etc.?
Can the repository itself be under source control, and checked in/out directly from Data Modeler?
Or will only the output files be candidates for version/source control?
Let me admit right away that I have not read much of the data modeler docs, and I have also not downloaded/installed it (yet), but does anyone have pointers to docs on this , or general input/knowledge around it.
On a side note, I must say that it puzzles me that a company like Oracle, that delivers one of the best databases doesn't use its database engine to host the repository, but instead chooses to go for files (I assume xml) "scattered all over the place"....
Well, I guess they a have a reason for it..
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Sql Developer Data Modeler and Subversion anyone?
Jens

Hi Jens,
It's early days and the initial implementation is indeed file based. Though I'd say not xml files "all over the place", but in ordered folders. Yes, as a database company it does make sense that we'd have a repository for managing and versioning metadata. However the tool supports Oracle and other databases and many companies use open source version control tools, such as Subversion and so anyone using the Data Modeler today can use it with Subversion regardless of the database they are designing for.
We do plan to have a repository, but in the 6+ months of the early adopter program found that many of the early adopters were happy to place the files under source code control using Subversion and in so doing also managed the multi-user development.
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Flex and Data Model plugin

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Thanks Matt,
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Forum for SQL Developer and Data Modeler?

I searched now for a while all the available forums but did not found a special forum for the Oracle SQL Developer tool.
Where do I post questions about it?
Is there another, separate forum for SQL Developer Data Modeler?
Peter

https://forums.oracle.com/forums/category.jspa?categoryID=501

Best practises Subversion and Data modeler

hello, i'am looking for some best practises regarding subversion and datamodeler.
A team of 10 analysts create several releases of our product over time.
Within one release you'll find several change requests.
The application itself contains about 700tables so performance is important.
I want to establish a lean working method were analyst can focus on their job - design.
Till now I think to create one trunk containing the db model let's call it v17.00
An analyst could create their designs in separate projects grouped by change request eg CR1234.
When development starts i would compare the trunk model with their change request to generated the alter script.
Afterwards i would import their design CR1234 into the trunk.
Note : it's possible that a change request got cancelled - that's why i opt for a design per change request.
This way of working seems much leaner than the setup of branches and merging.
My opinion, being a novice subversion user, is that setting up branches and merging is "more complex" and might causes frustration for designers.
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How I can understend if I create instances in AM by giving different aliases to the same VO, they must be independent. Yes or not?
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Data Models and Data Flow diagrams.

Hi Gurus,
Can anybody brief me the concept of Data Models and Data Flow Diagrams and their development with illustrations. And is it a responsibility of a Technical or a Functional consultant..i.e to translate Business requirements and functional specifications into technical specifications, data flow diagrams and data models.
Your valuable answers will be rewarded.
Thanks in advance.

Hi,
Concept of Data Models
Data model or Data modelling is basically how you define or design your BW Architecture based on Business requirements. It deals with designing and creating a effcient BW architecture sticking to standard practices.
Multi-Dimensional Modeling with SAP NetWeaver BI
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/6ce7b0a4-0b01-0010-52ac-a6e813c35a84
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Data Flow Diagrams
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Responsibility of a Technical or a Functional consultant
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Hope this helps.
Thanks,
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Beginners guide to PowerPivot data models

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I've been using PowerPivot for a little while now but have finally given into the fact that my lack of knowledge about data modelling is causing me all kinds of problems.
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15 employees and we were using Excel and PivotTables to do some basic analysis before soon discovering that our data was too complicated and that I needed something. PowerPivot definitely seems to solve that issue and I'm having much
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online form which explains the fundamentals well.

File with pls extension opens with data modeler instead of sql developer

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I have both SQL Developer and Data Modeler installed as separate installations. If I click in the Windows File navigator on a file with the extension pls, the SQL Developer should open since the pls extension has been connected to SQL Developer.
If I have neither SQLD nor DM open, SQLD opens -> ok
If I have only SQLD open, the file is opened in SQLD -> ok
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Oracle Data Modeler - No Table Relationship

I am having problems when I use the import data dictionary function. First I choose my schema and tables. then after the import is complete, the tables are there but, there is no relationship between the table's keys. I am not sure if I do not have it configured correctly or what it could be. All the examples I find online seem to work correctly. ANy ideas?
Edited by: user13161578 on Nov 12, 2010 8:31 AM

Have you tried with one of the sample schemas, like HR? Are you selecting tables with FK relationships between them?
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Can ODI act as Canonical Data Model?
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