Discoverer VS Bi Publisher

Hi All,
i want to know the different between Discoverer VS Bi Publisher and can the bi publisher be a replacement for discoverer ?
thanks

Depends on how you currently use your products.
Though these links are dated, the content still holds true
BI Publisher vS Discoverer
What are the DIFFERENCES between Discoverer and BI Publisher?
http://repo.solutionbeacon.net/DiscovererandBIPublisher.pdf
HTH
Srini

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Hi,
Could some one please list the pros and cons from switching from Discoverer to BI Publisher?
I know it seems kinda vague but anything you have experienced would be helpful.
New to both tools at this moment.
Thanks so much!

Hi,
BI Publisher targets formal reporting, call it "document" reporting if you like. Oracle Discoverer targets adhoc interactive reporting. Ie. With BI Publisher developers create reports, users run the the reports. With Discoverer developers create views of objects, and users create their own reports on those objects with a lot of the background complexity taken out.
So both can happily co-exist and its not a choice of one or the other, or a case of moving from one to the other - it depends on your business requirements.
Gareth
http://garethroberts.blogspot.com

What are the DIFFERENCES between Discoverer and BI Publisher?

Hi,
I was asked by my manager to look into BI Publisher and give a report. Went through and the first thing that came to my mind was Oracle Discoverer.
I don’t see any difference between the 2. Both are end user reporting tools, , with basically the same functions and options, or AM I MISSING something here???
Surprisingly, both Discoverer and BIP are part of Oracle BI EE. So why have 2 products that basically does the same thing in BI EE??
I would appreciate if anybody can enlighten me.
Thanks & Regards,
CS

Hi
Well not really. Discoverer is an end user reporting tool, providing the ability to generate high end reports, typically with a chart and drillable table. BIP is targeted at the other end of the spectrum, where Oracle Reports sits. It has some disco like capabilities but its strengths lie in generating documents e.g. invoices, POs , letters, listing reports, etc. It can also generate electronic formats, EFT, EDI, XML, etc.
In its standalone flavor, it comes as a server component, managing users, report security, scheduling, real time reports, etc.
So, it overlaps a little with Disco, it overlaps far more with Oracle Reports. It the strategic operational reporting solution going forward, its bundled with BIEE. BIEE being the Oracle BI product going forward. I dont think you'll find Disco shipping with BIEE.
Tim

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My Client has EBS R12 and has both Discoverer 10g and BI Publisher.
Please can someone help me to understand where to use Discoverer Tool and when to use BI Publisher tool.
What are the major differences and limitations of these products.
I appreciate your help.
Regards, Kolluru

Hi,
The main difference is that Discoverer is an Ad-hoc tool but can only generate tabular reports. With BI Publisher the use of templates gives you total control over the layout of your reports.
Also, it is worth noting that Discoverer workbooks can be used as a source for BI Publisher giving you some ad-hoc capability but with the nice layout from BI Publisher.
Rod West

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I have previously used Discoverer to do our reporting and am investigating the differences between the two products. I understand that its chalk and cheese but one thing I am having trouble identifying is the CASE WHEN functionality that we use Discoverer in BI Publisher.
An example of the usage for our CASE WHEN would be creating a derived column in a report to convert existing data into a more standardised format.
I imagine this is quite a simple answer and I have just missed it but could anyone out there help me with where I can input the functionality in BI publisher.
I am not the most technically gifted so any answers with simple words help :-)
Edited by: 943098 on 27-Jun-2012 03:25

You can use CASE WHEN in a sql query in a data model. You can also use it in the RTF template via "if then else", choose statements etc
Take a look at section 4.10 in the BI publisher Report Designer's guide for use cases/examples: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E23943_01/bi.1111/e22254.pdf
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Bipuser

Special characters in Discoverer

Hi everybody,
I would like to use special characters in reports such as arrow (U2192, Arial font.). It's fine in Discoverer, but after publishing to AS portal it doesn't work.
Thanks for any ideas how to solve this issue.
Tomas Greif

Hi,
Firstly, Desktop 4.1.37 is not a good version. You should upgrade to Desktop 4.1.48.
You should check the regional and language settings in the control panel. It will need to be changed to display different characters sets.
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HTTP 500 - Internal Server Error from Discoverer Viewer to Portal

HI,
I created a tab with a list of workbooks created with Discoverer Viewer and published with Discoverer Portliest Provider (List of Database Workbooks). Another tab contains four Discoverer Worksheets created with the same account. Everything works well but if i click on a report in list and open Discoverer Viewer, when i return to portal and go to tab containing worksheets i see message "HTTP 500 - Internal Server Error" and i'm not able to do anything. I only can close my browser and i must reconnect to portal!
Can you help me?
My portal version is cg (9.0.4), i'm using Windows 2000 ESP and Internet Explorer 6.
I tried with Olin and Mazola but result did not change.
I used a public connection bud i tried a private connection too. Nothing happened.

The application.log file, under the OC4J which running your Discoverer provider, should give you some hints about the problem you're facing.
Peter

Integrating Discoverer in a Publiehr report

Héllo,
I try to make a report based on a Discoverer query, but I've got problems creating the data model.
I followed the instructions of this site :
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:65B0_hSn0R8J:www.rittmanmead.com/2007/09/integrating-bi-publisher-and-discoverer/+Discoverer+and+BI+Publisher+integration&cd=3&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr
When I create my data model, I choose the type "Oracle Discoverer". When I try to retrieve the connections, I've got this error
"An error occurred when retrieving the connections.
Error Detail
; nested exception is:
java.net.UnknownHostException: null"
Does someone know how I could handle it ?
Thanks !
Edited by: jbg on 13 janv. 2011 02:56

Better check my White paper which talks about the matter. This may be a bit outdated but I still consider it important as it discusses the integration points.
regards
Jorge A.

Ways to put Multiple discoverer worksheets in a single Portlet. (10G releas

Hi all
Can anybody suggest me ways to put Multiple discoverer worksheets in a single Portlet. (10G release 2)
- Out of the box (no coding option)
- Java Beans options
Note:- the discoverer sheet portlet allows only 1 workseet.
Would appreciate any pointers/help in this regard
Cheers!!
Puneet

Hi Puneet,
Discoverer portlets do not require any knowledge of code, Java beans, HTML, or any other programming construct. They are probably the simplest and easiest to use business intelligence portlets in the market today, and most customers I show these to are simply amazed at their power and user friendliness.
Anyway, to answer your question:
- You can choose to have one table (or crosstab) and one graph in one Discoverer portlet.
Note that since a Discoverer portlet is published on a Portal page, you do not have to worry about having or not having the capability to publish more than one Discoverer worksheet to a single portlet. By adding multiple Discoverer portlets to a single (or multiple) Portal pages you can achieve the same effect.
Discoverer is a portlet provider to Oracle Portal. This means that any Discoverer worksheet - table, crosstab, or any of the 50+ graph types - can be published to an Oracle Portal page without any coding. This is the Discoverer Worksheet portlet.
A second Discoverer portlet is the List of Worksheets portlet, which allows you to publish a list of worksheets to a Portal page as a portlet.
The third Discoverer portlet type is the Gauge portlet. This allows you to publish a Discoverer crosstab worksheet as a Gauge (dial) visualization, allowing you to create dashboards.
For more information take a look at the "Oracle® Business Intelligence Discoverer Publishing Workbooks in Oracle Application Server Portal" doc, 10g Release 2 (10.1.2.1), Part No B14465-02
Thanks
Abhinav
Oracle Business Intelligence Product Management
BI on Oracle: http://www.oracle.com/bi/
BI on OTN: http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/bi/
Discoverer: http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/discoverer/
BI Software: http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/ias/devuse.html
Documentation: http://www.oracle.com/technology/documentation/appserver1012.html
BI Samples: http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/bi/samples/
Blog: http://oraclebi.blogspot.com/

SQR vs BI Publisher for budget book

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I need to put together and print a budget book - I'm trying to figure out which product to use. BI Publisher vs SQR - I don't have experience with either of these.
Anyone have a suggestion as to which one to use and why? or is there any other products to consider
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Debbie

Depends on how you currently use your products.
Though these links are dated, the content still holds true
BI Publisher vS Discoverer
What are the DIFFERENCES between Discoverer and BI Publisher?
http://repo.solutionbeacon.net/DiscovererandBIPublisher.pdf
HTH
Srini

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With regards to BI Discoverer and BI Publisher, is a report/workbook re-generated from the underlying data source every time someone requests it or does the BI server serve up an existing copy of the report?
The context: we will have some 600 reports being accessed by 2000 odd people. I'm trying to get some understanding of the load on the server and the performance of the report generation.
Appreciate any help you can provide.
Cheers,
Nim

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Register Drill-Down Reports in Oracle Apps 11i

I understand the registration process for registering a drill-down Oracle*Report in Oracle Applications is more complex as for a standard Oracle*Report. Does anyone know what the steps are, or where I can find documentation on this.
Any help appreciated.

Hi,
ah ok, now the situation gets clearer ;)
Normally I would say that drill-down requires some kind of interactivity, so I am not sure if reports is the best way for this, because the functionality of reports is:
enter parameters > run > view output. But for drill-down you need some more functionality: select a column/value where you want to drill-in or out, have some kind of hierarchy to select the "drill-level"... I don't think that this is foreseen in Reports 6i. So I would try maybe two different ways:
1. design the report in a way that the users can select the drill-level (or level of detail) as a report parameter. For example you create a parameter "Detail Level" with possible values "Summary", "Detailed Rows". Based on the parameter value chosen the report returns different output. This keeps you of course limited to a certain, fixed set of drill-levels, but I think this is ok in most of the cases.
2. Another option could be to create several different reports, for example one "Summary" report and one "detailed" report, and in the summary report you could include links (dynamic URLs) to the detailed report, and when the user clicks on a certain value in the Summary report, then the detailed report is started for that specific value. However this is a bit more complex, I'd go for the first option.
But to get real drill-down functionality you should consider using Discoverer or BI Publisher technology, those are perfect for such kind of reports.
kind regards,
David.

Business Intelligence related Question - R12

Hi All,
We are moving to R12 soon, and right now use Discoverer Reports, BI Publisher Reports, RDF Reports and an in-house built data warehousing tool which we want to get rid of due to maintenance overhead. Moving to R12, we would like to have one tool where we can consolidate all our reporting in.
Is there BI tool that comes as part of R12, that can be used for reporting? We also might use OBIEE, which I think is a seperately licensed product.
Do you have any sugegstions?
Thanks in advance.

Chinook2 wrote:
Hi All,
Is there BI tool that comes as part of R12, that can be used for reporting? We also might use OBIEE, which I think is a seperately licensed product.No BI tool as such. Some of the DBI (Daily Business Intelligence) stuff still works, I think, but I can't speak for how well the various dashboards have been maintained between 11i and R12. Oracle's preferred direction is seems to be for customers to use the OBIA (Business Intelligence Applications) product instead for pre-built Apps business intelligence (http://www.oracle.com/us/solutions/ent-performance-bi/bi-applications-066544.html#erp) . And, of course, if you want to roll your own, there's OBIEE: http://www.oracle.com/us/solutions/ent-performance-bi/enterprise-edition-066546.html .
Regards,
John P.
http://only4left.jpiwowar.com

The last scheduled refresh failed. Click for details

Hi,
I have Discoverer scheduled results published in Portal via portlet.
The scheduled job is set to run everyday in Discoverer.
In Portal while publishing the results I set it up to refresh every day.
Though the discoverer scheduled job runs without any error I see in Portal the portlet is not refreshed.
It gives error "The last scheduled refresh failed. Click for details".
The details shows something like this
An error occurred while getting requested worksheet. BIB-10306 Object with name SWB:_LIBRARYEXECDIV_FORMAT/148142/1 could not be found.
or like
WWC-50003 - Object not found.
Cause:
The specified path to the given object does not exist.
Action:
Check that the path is valid. Path names are case-sensitive.
Can anyone help me with this
Thanks
Jay

Hi.
I don't know any real solutiion, but why don't you try to delete that potrlet and create a new one.
It's a simple and fast way and it will usually help in simmilar situations. Only if the new portlet also fails, it's a time for deeper investigation...
Jakub

End user functional difference between Cognos ReportNet -VS - OBI EE

Hi all.
Are there any real difference Cognos ReportNet -VS - OBI EE from an end user functionality point of view? I have created a laundry list of end user functionality we are interested in and I can't see the differences. The end user functionality is implemented differently but they all seem to be there.
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Hi
I do believe your statement is correct in that there is little to choose between Cognos and BI EE. They both cost a lot of money too.
Personally I'm waiting on the interface for Discoverer to BI Publisher. When this comes out during the next few months we'll see Discoverer getting another boost.
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