Discovery System v3 - Installation questions

Hello all,
We have the Discovery Server v3, with ERP and SOL instances. Some small questions regarding installation.
We have a DB size of ~175Gb. Is it normal?
We have a RAM consumption of 11Gb when both systems are started. Is it normal?
In the Visual Admin, Server > Services > Destinations doesn't work (class loading exception). Do you experience the same?
Thanks in advance,
Francois

Hi,
You can access the users+password form of V3 using this link:
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/8065c52a-dc37-2a10-0989-a7d17627e2f2
or by navigating to the "How to setup the Discovery System" page and from there click on the "passwords and logins" link (all the way to the bottom).
Best regards,
Amir
Edited by: Amir Glatt on Jan 29, 2008 3:01 PM

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Guillaume Garcia

Hello Guillaume,
> There is major problems I think, knowing:
> - what exactly are the functionalities (and
> consequently, what audience is targeted) provided by
> Sneak Preview (SDN), IDES systems (through Software
> Catalog), ES Discovery systems (I am sure I am
> missing some of them).
> For instance, IDES offer functional modules and
> Sneak preview doesn't
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> - what level of partnership is needed (none
> [for instance for products available in the SDN
> Download section] to get those sustems,
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> for IDES, SAP Global Partner for Software Catalog)
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> - what is the trial period (if any) :
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>is it
> possible to renew the license, if yes for how
> long...
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> I think a blog or a Wiki could help hundreds of
> people !
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>
Itai Sadan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If you are licensed for SAP ERP or Business Suite, your account executive can work with the contracting department to make sure that the MaxDB segment is either added to an existing installation number or a new installation number will be created for you. Please note that usage of MaxDB will be provided to you on an evaluation basis.
>
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>
> Regards,
>
> Itai
>
> Edited by: Itai Sadan on Jun 16, 2008 4:49 PM
Itai,
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