Discussions Application Portlet Size Configuration

I've installed oracle disucussions succesfully and currently i´m using the Portlet into a JSF page in my web center application. Problem is, it is too small, how can i change the sizes of the portlet ?? I searched in diferent config files but i can´t find somethig usefull. Has anybody tryied this ??

Have you tried changing the width/height attributes of the portlet view tag?
Peter

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