Disk utility cannot repair HD

Hello,
some days ago my macbook (13 inch, mid 2012, yosemite) did not start. The boot of OS X seemed to freeze, so I rebooted starting disk utility to check if something went wrong in my HD.
At first I started a verification on permissions and as a result I found many files tha couldn't be read
Then a started a verification on the HD and the response was that disk utility couldn't complete the process and that I had to repair the disk.
Well, finally I started the repair but it stopped after a while saying that the disk could not be repaired and suggested to initialize the HD and then recover from backup.
I repeated the process more then once, but the result was always the same.
Now, i use Time Machine (on a NAS) & CCC (on external usb drive) to backup, so I have all backups accessible, but I wondering if the problem is phisical and not logical (or both) but i cannot understand it. Does the inizialization isolate possible damaged sectors ?
Do you suggest to try anyway the "inizialize+recover from backup" process or is it better to go to an assistance point and avoid waste of time ?
Many thanks for any suggestion.

Solved by myself...Initialised HD and fully restored from Time Machine, all problems disappeared

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