Displaying audio waveforms in viewer alongside composite video

I know you can switch, in the Source Viewer, from Composite Video to Audio Waveform - but is there any way to view BOTH at the same time, similar to how FCPX works? Basically I want to be able to scrub the Audio Waveform timeline, but be able to watch the Composite Video at the same time. Any ideas? Thanks.
Reference image (FCP X on left, Premiere on right):

I read recently that if you have a second monitor connected via Transmit, then you can watch the video there and view the audio waveforrm or scopes in the main PPRO UI.

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I want to thank you for your reply. I figured out what was happening and
thought you might want to file the information somewhere.
The problem occurred whenever I imported an older legacy project. Even
though it was set to display waveform, it wouldn't do it until after I
closed and reopened the project file.
Anyway, thanks again!

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I am running Final Cut Pro 7.0, and I have seen some posts about this issue, but not with Final Cut 7, and it is really driving me mad.
Of late a bunch of my shots have lost their waveform in the viewer, though I can still see the audio waveform in the timeline, and it is random, with it happening to some clips and not others. There are even some clips where it goes in and out.
I have trashed my Prefs, and I have deleted the Audio Waveform Cache, to no avail. I have also fixed system prefs, and that did nothing.
Does anyone have any ideas how this can be fixed? I have had this crop up before, and have never found a solution, and this is driving me mad!

Hi Jonah
Okay, I don't have a solution for you, sorry, but just wanted to let you know you are not the lone ranger. I have seen this problem before, but not since I upgraded to FCP 7. Also, I like you don't remember ever coming up with a solution short of accepting that my audio was somehow corrupted. It still worked just fine as I recall, but it just wasn't being displayed. I'll be curious to see what solutions you come up with and will sure let you know if I see this in FCP7.

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After 35 minutes with Adobe phone support ... this is what we found and resolved the issues (as both A1 and A2 had no sound wave):
(1) When media files are moved, PR does not know where to find them. We had to extensively search project files (Lynda.com tutorial) to locate some missing files.
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First, make sure the track settings aren't too low. If the track height is too small the waveforms won't show. If that's OK then quit the application and trash the waveform cache. If you don't know where that is look in your FCE system settings. It'll be at the bottom of the first panel.

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Could you expand on your solution? I'm having the same problem, I can't see the audio waveform of the video that I imported from camera. View/Show Audio Waveforms is checked. I can get the volume line when I check View/Show Clip Volume Levels, but that's not what I want.
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I clicked on "View Audio Waveforms" under "View" as I'm editing my movie.
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Showing audio waveforms
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=iMovie/6.0/en/imv1133.html
Note: Waveforms are faint when you're showing clip volume levels. To hide clip volume levels, deselect Show Clip Volume Levels in the View menu. (A selected item has a checkmark next to it; choose the item again to deselect it.)
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Long time forum-lurker, first time poster.
Here's the situation: The nighttime assistant editor created a sequence of B-roll clips for an editor. On both the editor's and the assistant editor's computer, the audio waveforms for these clips are not displaying correctly. Specifically, the symptoms (on both computers) are:
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Also, try copying
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