Distribution of Costs from CCA to CO-PA

Hi All,
Can someone please help me find a solution to the following scenario?
There is a requirement to distribute costs from CCA to Cust/Prod level in CO-PA.
*The cost allocations factors can only be provided at the Customer Group/Product level.
*Using regular assessment cycles in CO-PA it is possible to distribute these costs to Customer Group/Product level.
*However these costs are to be distributed further to the Customer/Product level in CO-PA based on the revenue value field.
Any suggestions on how this can be done? Can I use top down distribution?
Regards,
KK

Option 1:
Step 1 - create assessment to COPA (KEU1). Ensure that you enter customer group and product in the receiver characteristics (second tab)
Step 2- use top down distribution to distribute from customer group to customer.
Please refer to SAP help on top down distribution to see how top-down distribution works if you want to retain 'product' characteristics. They have given examples.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/7a/4c48c64a0111d1894c0000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
Second option:
Step 1 - Carry out top down distribution of the cost allocation factors from customer group/product to customer/group.
Step 2 - Create assessment cycles at customer/product level.
Second option may be a better solution from data volume point of view beacsue top-down-distribution creates two records for sender and receiver in COPA. I am assuming that number of records for top down distribution of cost allocation factors will be less as compared to top down distribution of actual costs from multiple cost centers.
Hope it helps.
Regards,

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