DJing w/ 5 Zen Xtra's. any suggestions?? special software

I am using 4 40Gbs and 60Gb presently. I am having to use each one separately. I would like to be able to search the library of all of them at one query. Anybody know a way of doing this? I figure I will need a laptop with many USB2 ports at least. Been using the headphone jacks to get the music into my system. Any help or suggestions would be nice. Thank you in advance.

I have resigned myself to use them individually.
Yes, I DJ with these. I use them as separate sources, much like a CD player. I do not mix with a computer, but an old school mixer. So gaps are not an issue. I do have to hit the play/pause button early, as these are not INSTANT START units.
I have the Zens to the left of the mixer, in front of the CDs. My big problem was remembering what was on what player. I would have preferred using a laptop, with instant access, but am a little broke right now. So this software which will let me PRINT the library of each ZEN, is a Godsend. I will have 5 booklets with every song and artist in alphabetical order. One for each player.
I use MusicMatch to rip, I use the largest file size (320) on my computer and on the ZENs. I have experimented with other formats. WAV is too big, and mp3Pro didn't sound any different to my ears (maybe it was the music). Anyway, consistency is important, so I am committed now to what I have been doing.
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I.E. Pink Floyd - The Wall. There are several songs that are better played back to back. The Beatles - Abbey Road. Jimi Hendrix - Electric Ladyland.
I have approx. 250 really good CD's on my Jukebox and I love to randomly play tracks. However, when I do, I inevitably get one of these tracks needing its companion tracks.
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You guys have done a great job with the Jukebox. I love it.Message Edited by glynnspringer on -04-2004 09:5 PM

Glynnspringer
A suggestion for you. There are 3rd party softwares that can merge/join mulitple mp3/audio files into one single mp3/audio files. You could use these softwares to merge/join the mp3 that you wanted to have it play back to back into a single mp3 file. In this way, you could enjoy the random feature of the player and also enjoy the whole mp3.
Jason

Zen Xtra In need of major software package upd

I don't know about other people, but I have a lot of songs. Lots! Anyway, there are several features that the Nomad Explorer and Suite lack.
To start, let's say I need to update several tags of my songs. I get my computer's tag editor up, and do all that. Now the files are updated, but how do I 'sync' those files with the player? Not possible. I have to delete them from the player and then send them again. Of course I could get into the Nomad Explorer and update them there, but why do that when I just had a program do that for me on my local files? I like using Windows Media Player to 'sync' my files, but that only checks for the presence of a song, not the correct tag information. Something about the player needs to be updated whether it be the firmware or the Creative software. I should not be forced into using MediaSource (I've used it before and it makes my computer run too slowly), because I like having the freedom of not being tied down to dare I say iTunes. But let's think about it, Apple has a good thing goin on that, once you plug your player in, you can see all the files, and you can sync it with your computer including the tag stuff.
Next, would there be any possible way we could actually play the music off our player without transferring the files? My brother has an iPod, and I love it how he can just walk up to his computer, and plug it in and play it thru his speakers like that.
Also what about random play. I would really like it if there were some sort of way to play all songs in random order, but leave some songs (or rather recordings...etc) out of that list. There are files on my player that I like to listen to, but there should be a way to keep some songs on the 'don't play during random play all songs list'. See what I'm sayin? Ok lets make an extreme case. Let's say I have 5k songs, and then 20 audiobooks (I don't really, but just work with me here). When I go to "Play Any Track," there should be some way of excluding those audiobooks.
Thank you for listening to my concerns. I'm fairly sure there are others that would deeply appreciate these features. I can also say without hesitation that iPod customers are very happy with their product because features like these are available. All I'm sayin is you are got me sold on your product, but could you release some software updates?

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The Creative software can't do it, but?the freeware Nomadsync?can.
Next, would there be any possible way we could actually play the music off our player without transferring the files? My brother has an iPod, and I love it how he can just walk up to his computer, and plug it in and play it thru his speakers like that.
Yep. MediaSource does this if you're using USB2. If using USB or USB2 there are other solutions as well, such as?the freeware JBHTTP?and the Xtreamer function in the shareware Notmad Explorer.
Also what about random play. I would really like it if there were some sort of way to play all songs in random order, but leave some songs (or rather recordings...etc) out of that list.
I agree, but currently the only way to do it is using a playlist which you have to setup manually. One easy way would be to have a genre tag that is excluded from this list.

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Yesterday I was very pleased to find that my Creative Zen Xtra (model DAP-HD00) portable media player is a PlaysForSure capable device. Creative Labs, on November 9, 2005, released the Creative Zen Xtra PlaysForSure Firmware v2.0.03. I installed this firmware (I had to install the Creative ZenJukebox Driver v.30.03 first to get Windows to recognize the device). Once the firmware was upgraded, Windows began recognizing the Zen Xtra as a MTP device and life was good. I was able to synchronize it with both Napster To Go and Windows Media Player 0.
After this, I went ahead and installed Windows Media Player Beta, which I just downloaded yesterday as well.
From a functional standpoint, WMP seems to run just fine. However, when I connected the Creative Zen Xtra (with its PlaysForSure firmware), Windows redetected the hardware. It first showed "Creative Jukebox Zen Xtra" in the tooltip, followed by "MTP Device" in the new hardware tooltip. Finally, Windows announced that there was a problem installing my new hardware and that it may not work properly.
Sure enough, when I went into Device Manager, my Zen Xtra was showing as an MTP Device with an exclamation point on it. More specifically, it specified the status of, "This device cannot start (Code 0)."
Prior to the installation of Windows Media Player, the Creative Zen Xtra showed in device manager with the following characteristics under the heading "Windows Portable Devices":
Name: NOMAD Jukebox Zen XtraDriver Version: 5.2.0.0 dated 8/30/2004Digitally Signed by Microsoft Windows Component Publisher
Driver File Details:C:\Windows\system32\wpdusb.sys - v5.2.3802.3802 built by dnsrv(bld4act)
Windows Media Player changed this to the following (the device now shows up under "Portable Devices"):
Name: MTP DeviceDriver Version: 5.2.5326.4762 dated 2/22/2006Digitally Signed by Microsoft Windows Component Publisher
Driver File Details:C:\Windows\system32\wpdusb.sys - v5.2.5358.4827 (WMP_.060509-2009)C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\wudfrd.sys - v6.0.5348.0(winmain(wmbla).0604-339)
The file wudfrd.sys is NOT digitally signed in this case.
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Microsoft Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 2Verified GENUINE Microsoft operating system using Genuine Advantage ValidationIntel Pentium 4 CPU 3.2 GHz, Hyper-Threaded processor2.00 GB RAM
Windows Media Player Version: .0.5358.4827Napster Version: 3.6.0.7 (US)
Any recommendations? Fixes? Some have suggested rolling back the WMP installation, but I would like to consider this option only as an absolute last resort.
Best regards,Matt

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It is puzzling how some people including myself can upgrade thier firmware on thier devices and experience no problems at all during the procedure. Then theres others like yourself who would experience catastrophic events.
Since we all downloaded the firmware from the same place, and?alot of us didn't have any problems, it is?at least safe to say that there isn't anything?wrong?with the new firmware. Or else we'd all problems.
So for these devices that are failing, there must have been already a serious problem with them before the upgrade even started. The symptons just went unnoticed through every day normal use. And are only manifested through a reload/upgrade of firmware. Or something happened on the computer itself, during the transfer of data; auto file scanning virus protection comes to mind, or other programs or services running in the background that were taking up resources needed to make the upgrade go smoothly,?a USB cable with a short in it or a bad USB port. Who knows?!
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Now, atleast, I knew the MP3. player was working and functionally intact, and the challenge was completely computer software issues on my netbook, possibly due to some service pack upgrade or the sort.
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~Stuart

Thanks for the reply. I sure wish I had a better understanding of this. I will request one more piece of invaluable knowledge from you! My old zen & windows xp computer hum in awesome performance again. Unfortunately, since I thought my old zen was broken, I'm now with this new beast, with the updated firmware 2.0.03. From what I previously read on Boards and Forum pages, this device shouldn't be connected to my XP computer while I'm still using my OLD zen with old firmware. As you mention in the above note, I connect this 'new' Zen to my Vista computer, & it immedately goes into docking mode. I tried loading the newest firmware available for my device (though it doesn't list vista as compatable), and of course, when the mediasource version 3.30.2 loads, it doesn't have a clue that my zen is connected. Only WMP version seems to pay attention, which may not be that bad. But once I was up & running in WMP, I couldn''t seem to create playlists and or even clearly get it to load the Audio Lectures that I have onto it. So, Wise, All Knowing CREATIVE Wizard, any suggestions what I do? Delete WMP? I will hope never to bother you again, once this is solved!!!
But I am tremendously grateful for the assistance. I only spent about an hour in WMP accomplishing nothing, before I realized I should just turn to you, admit my defeat, and hope for insight and practical advice!!!!!
Thanks!!!
~Stuart

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The Zen is showing up fine in the device manager, but none of the software (Media Player, MediaSource) sees it.
Finally, after a day of trying new drivers, running cleanup, etc. I decided to go into the Zen's recovery menu. To get there, press and hold the Play button and press and hold the reset (use a paperclip) button while powering up.
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This is a long post, but I thank you in advance if you read it and think you have any ideas for me. Parts of this post were originally posted on the Nomadness.net forums and parts of it come from my personal email correspondence with one of the experienced users on that site.
Here goes:
I just installed a new HD on my Jukebox, and now I am unable to get it to download the Firmware (current or otherwise) and it remains in a state of rescue mode.
Here is how I posted my dilemma on the nomadness.net forums:
My computer is running Windows XP. I have a Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra 40GB that I have had for about 2 years, and have had no problems with it, using it at least 8 hours/day 5 days/week (I run it at my desk while I work). I mention that just to give you an idea of how much regular continuous use it has been getting, if that matters. I have regularly downloaded all the latest appropriate firmware, etc. from the Creative website, using the auto updater service. I have one other Creative product connected to this computer, a SoundBlaster Audigy. This will come up again in a minute.
Over time I have accumulated so much new music that I knew I had to either get a new Jukebox or upgrade the HD. Since the Xtra is no longer available new, and upgraded ones are SO expensi've on eBay, I thought I would install a new HD myself. I read the instructions posted here on nomadness.net, and purchased an 80 GB 5400 RPM Momentus 5400.3 Ultra ATA/00 Internal Hard Dri've (that's Seagate).
Ok, now. The installation went easily enough, but now I cannot get the Firmware to reload. My computer recognizes that the unit is connected - it makes the appropriate sound when I connect or disconnect the JB, and under My Computer, there is the icon for the Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra, under the "Other" category.
When I installed the HD and powered up, I got the rescue menu as expected and started with the "FORMAT ALL". I got the confirmation that it was reformatted and the expected GB of memory showed as available. SO...then I went to "RELOAD OS" and selected the "yes" option to verify that I wanted to reload via USB --BUT-- it only showed the "Start Firmware Update Now" for a second and then went right back to the menu. I have tried using the reset, and every combination of unplugging, replugging, removing the battery, putting it back in, reformatting, etc. and nothing changes. It just goes right back to the rescue menu every time.
I have the Firmware files (old and new) saved on my computer's HD, but when I try to launch any one of them, I get the same annoying message: "Your player is not connected, please connect your player". Well, if the computer thinks it's connected, then why doesn't the firmware file? I don't get it.
If I go back to the Creative auto updater on the website, it still recognizes the SB Audigy being connected, but no longer recognizes the JB.
How can I get the Firmware into the JB if I can't get it to recognize the player being connected? And why is that my computer shows it, if the Firmware file itself doesn't see it's
I received only one response that suggested I check the instructions on the Nomadness FAQs and also the great upgrade guide by Mr. Cheow, also on Nomadness.net.
This was my follow-up post:
Since I posted this earlier today, I have tried everything, and I mean everything, suggested by all of these "guides" to upgrading a hard dri've.
The problem remains that my computer recognizes the Jukebox as a portable device that is connected, but I am unable to get the Firmware file to load because it always says that my device is not connected. It should also be noted that the Nomad Explorer and other applications also will not recognize it (Notmad, JBHTTP, etc.)
Furthermore, I will add that we have two of the exact same model Jukeboxes and two of the same Dell computers running XP, etc. and in every possible combination we have tried, my Jukebox, with the new HD is the one that can not be accessed. So, I know that the connections, drivers, ports, etc. are not defecti've. The only thing that has changed since this morning is that I installed the new HD in my Jukebox.
I would love for any of you who have done this kind of upgrade to offer suggestions, as I am willing to try anything at this point.
After my last post, as a last ditch effort, my boyfriend suggested swapping the hard dri'ves in my Jukebox and his, thinking that perhaps we could get the firmware to download into his, and then switch the hard dri'ves back. Well, it looked as though it was going to work, and then the firmware update stopped almost as soon as it started and so, we are back to the same impasse. It?s the strangest thing, considering that both of us have been using our respecti've JBs daily, and have had no other problems? until I tried this.
We both racked our brains trying to think of a way we could get the firmware from the computer into the jukebox since it won?t load as long as it doesn?t recognize the player. Is there any workaround for this? By that I mean, is there any way at all to get the firmware into the Jukebox with out just launching it as a self-executing file? I know you can't just ?put? the file into the Jukebox, but is there any other means to extract it into the Jukebox so that I can use it's?
Any help you can offer would be most appreciated. I am worried that I have ruined my Jukebox and wasted $75 on a HD that I can never use?.
***Note on the Hard Dri've I chose:
I specifically chose this HD based on information posted by others on Nomadness
In particular, the newer instructions for upgrading a Zen Xtra hard dri've that were posted by an individual who used a 5400 for his own upgrade. I even emailed him with questions before I went ahead with this HD. As someone who has done this before, he felt that since this HD fits the specs of size and type being used by others doing this type of upgrade, including his own, that it would be fine. I honestly don?t think that it is the HD itself.
Since trying the swapping of HDs and Jukeboxes last night, we now have not one, but two, that are stuck in recovery mode and flash ?Firmware Problem? when rebooted. I don?t see how the HD itself could have done this. In fact, I am certain that the HD did not ?cause? the problem.
I have been reading forums about Jukeboxes (including here), anything I can find, looking for possible solutions. I have discovered that there are many people out there with the same dilemma, even those who simply updated their Firmware and nothing else, but now are stuck in the same frustrating place that I am.
***Note on the versions of the Firmware Update files I have tried:
I was going to use the newest one, but then after reading comments on Nomadness, I decided to try the older version that everyone was saying was less problematic. (see below) One of the posters had provided a link to it, and I copied it from there. I also had two other newer versions of the Firmware Update, including the newest one that has supposedly caused all the problems for others, but none of them would launch anyway ? I just kept getting that same message saying that the ?player is not connected?. Actually, to be more accurate, as I think I described in my original post on Nomadness, when I first tried to upload the firmware, it seemed as though it was going to go through with it, but never got further than one segment on the file progress display. On the screen of the player, it said it was upgrading, but after a few hours, it had gone nowhere.
Oldest - ZenXtra_PCFW__03_02_L6
New-ish - ZenXtra_PCFW_LA__20_08
Newest - ZenXtraP4SAudible_PCFW_LB_2_0_03
If you have read this far, then please know that I appreciate it very much. If you have any further ideas or suggestions, please reply.

Amazing that someone noticed this post and took a stab at it after over a year... Actually, I found my answer long ago, and have tried to go back and post?it'son several boards where I had been looking for the answer. It seems to be such a common problem that I figure someone else can surely use this solution as I did. I would suggest that anyone?who is experiencing the frustration of not?getting their computer to recognize their device?read the very enlightening and helpful page that I am linking to here:
http://www.misticri'ver.net/forums/showthread.php?t=30939? (this is from a forum for iRi'ver, but the info and fix are uni'versal)
This simple solution involves correcting the ENUM keys in the Registry (not as scary as you might think) and deleting all instances of your player from the Device Manager and then reinstalling so that Windows and other applications will all recognize your player again. It's so simple, and once I tried it, I was amazed that's all it took to fix the problem.
?I?suggest you read the whole page and follow the instructions as they are given. I deleted and re-installed my player several times and then rebooted a couple of times before it took effect, but then it did, and I was able to download the Firmware and have had continued success with my original player that I posted about as well as others I have acquired since I first posted that message in 2006. For reasons I have not yet identified, this problem still happens every now and again, sometimes when I switch between players to synchronize. It may well be that when I use my registry cleaner or some other utility that "fixes" my registry, that it resets this particular key - but as long as it's easy to fix, it's not a problem. Hope this helps others who may stumble upon this odd little problem with the Zen Xtra.Message Edited by TrixieInDixie on -05-200709:28 PM

Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra - cannot install firmware - PC says device "not connected&qu

Hi everyone,?Below is a message I've just sent to Customer Support, but I thought I'd also post it here in case anyone has any words of wisdom. Thanks in advance for your help. -- - Dear Madam or Sir,?Yesterday, I tried to connect my Zen Xtra to my PC to transfer some songs from Windows Media Player . WMP produced an error message stating that my PC had a driver for my Zen Xtra which is not supported by WMP. [This was the first time I had tried to Sync my Zen Xtra with WMP.]?I visited www.creative.com and tried to install the latest firmware for my Zen Xtra. The installation of the firmware froze and remained frozen for over an hour. Now the only thing that my Zen Xtra displays is Rescue Mode v.3. I cannot install any firmware at the moment, because the installation wizard keeps stating that my Zen Xtra is not connected to my PC. However, it IS connected and Windows XP detects it up as a "portable storage device." I have completely uninstalled all Creative products on my PC and reinstalled them using my original installation CD, but this has not helped matters. I cannot find any helpful articles in your Knowledge Base. I would be very grateful if you could provide some assistance in this matter. I have had several years of excellent usage from my Zen Xtra and I am extremely annoyed by this latest development. Not only did the firmware upgrade process require me to delete all the data on my Zen Xtra, but now I seem to have a device which is not functioning at all. Many thanks.

I've received a reply from Creative [see below] which is, frankly, a bit insulting, because it suggests that they never even read my original message to them. Needless to say, I haven't been able to solve the problem. I've written back to them and told them that I'd appreciate further assistance. To top it all off,?I can't even format the Zen Xtra so that I can simply use it as an external hard dri've. Does ANYONE have any advice on this matter? Am I simply supposed to accept that I have a defunct MP3 player on my hands?-- - REPLY FROM CREATIVE?** Kindly read till the end of this email before attempting to
troubleshoot.
While allowing your Zen player to run in Recovery Mode (if possible),
conduct a Clean-Up followed by Reboot.
The link below will guide you on how to run your player in Recovery
Mode.
http://uk.europe.creative.com/suppor...p?l=3&sid=4794
** You may first wish to back-up your files/data/mp3 in your player (if
possible) as updating the firmware may result in a loss of all these
files.
Following which, you may wish to use the function ?Search by File Name
or Model Number? to locate <<ZenXtraP4SAudible_PCFW_LB_2_0_03.exe>> for
download followed by an update of the firmware onto your player (and
monitor if it responds positi'vely to the update) via this link at:
http://uk.europe.creative.com/support/downloads/
Before updating the firmware, you may also like to conduct a check to
see if Windows XP SP 2 has been installed (in your computer) under
Control Panel\System\General.
The download for Windows XP SP2 is available at http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
If your computer prompts that it ?does not detect? your player, you may
check if your player is actually connected to your computer via Control
Panel/System/Hardware/Device Manager.
You may also wish to remove any unnecessary USB connections from your
computer while charging/updating of firmware and connecting your player
to a USB port (rather than a USB hub) at the rear of your computer.
If your computer happens to already have been updated with the latest
Windows Media Player , you may wish troubleshoot this problem while
referring to this step-by-step link below at:
http://uk.europe.creative.com/suppor...p?l=3&sid=6737
** If this problem still persists, kindly repeat the troubleshoot
procedure again on another different computer.
I certainly hope the above step(s)/information will resolve your
query/problem completely and I look forward to your favourable reply
soon. Do not hesitate to contact Creative Customer Support Services
again should you have any clarifications in future.

Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra FIRMWARE PROBL

In the spring of 2005, I bought a 40GB Nomad Jukebox Sen Xtra. It worked for a little over a month without any problems. Since then, it shuts off on its own and?it freezes. For the first time since I bought it, I attempted to load new music onto it. Now whenever I turn it on, it reads "re-building library..." and then it's stuck on "Firmware Problem."? I tried updating?the firmware from the website, but since?my computer no longer recognizes that?the player is?plugged in.
?I welcome any suggestions for this problem. Please help me so I can stop regretting my decision to buy this...

Kayla24?Looks like you're going to have to start regretting buying something?made by?Creative. There are oodles of stories on these boards regarding software problems and creative mp3 players. Creative have published ?'updates' that effecti'vely disable players but will not take any action unless the machine is still under warranty. The last e-mail I got from tech support said 'We know the firmware [update] disabled your machine, but unless it is still in warranty there is nothing we will do about it."? It was a Zen Xtra 30GB, it's now a paperweight. If your's still turns on, try reinstalling the firmware on a old pc/laptop that has never had Windows Media on it, but has been updated to media player 0. This sometimes works - otherwise join the crowds and get an i-pod. At least they work - and Apple fix 'em when they break 'em.

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