DNG / Camera RAW 8.3 issue

Have CS6. Just downloaded Camera Raw update from here:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5694
because my CS6E Help > Updates is grayed out & I can't do it from there...
Update lists Sony RX10 RAWs as being recognized.
Download was reported as successful & file was correct size at 154MB.
DNG program opens as separate window from CS6E.
But it sees a folder of RX10 RAWs as empty
with message that RAWs are not recognized.
Any advice on resolving appreciated!
Thanks!

> In the dng converter just point to the folder with the images, not open the folder with the images.
Thanks! That worked!
Was able to convert SonyRAWs to DNG-RAWs.
Am using Windows 7.
Had CS2 on same laptop & couldn't open CS6 Bridge.
(some kind of conflict reported by others as to CS2-CS6)
So tried deleting CS2 & CS6 & reinstalling CS6.
But now am able to update to Camera RAW 8.3 from 7.0.
Still can't open CS6 Bridge, too.
Where do I find AdobeApplicMgr & how to check for updates?
Thanks in advance.

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Hi - I need help.
I'm running on Windows 7. I have just upgraded Photoshop to CS5.5 from CS4 (on my laptop not a creative cloud version). I have since uninstalled Photoshop CS4. I was trying to install the camera raw plug in 6.7.1 but it would not install and I got a message saying that the application manager was damaged and to download it again. I have downloaded the application manager file but cannot install it. I am getting the "installer failed to initilize" message. I've read through the forums on this and cannot find a solution.
I have extracted the file so I am not trying to open a zip file. I have downloaded a second time to a different location and tried installing again while logged into creative cloud but got the same message. I saw the comment about deleting the Adobe/OOBE folder and trying again but was wary about doing this as I don't know what this folder is. Can someone tell me what this is and why I would delete it?
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To fix this problem without CS6 do I need to reinstall CS5.5? (To do this I will have to reinstall CS4 as it was an upgrade version). Would just reinstalling CS4 fix the problem? Can I just reinstall the application manager part of either of these or is there a simpler solution?
Thanks in advance as I am not super tecchie and am running out of ideas.

Hi
I have Creative Suite 5.5 Master Collection but have only installed Photoshop and Bridge ( this includes files associated with that install). Since installing that I have also installed Photoshop 6 (with Bridge etc).
The issue I had in Photoshop 5.5 was I was unable to read files from Canon EOS 5D Mark 2. I was trying to install the camera raw plug in 6.7.1 to fix this. I got a message saying that the application manager was damaged and to download it again. I downloaded the application manager file (adobe application manager 8) but couldn't install it. I got an "installer failed to initilize" message.
So I downloaded CS6 to see if that would fix the application manager issue. I have now been able to install the camera raw plug 6.7.1 and this is now working in CS5.5. So the initial problem is fixed for now but what I want to know is -
- Is the Application Manager associated with the version or does it stand alone as a separate file?
- If I now uninstall Photoshop 6 will the Application Manager uninstall also, or will it continue to work in 5.5?
- What is the best way to uninstall version 6 - should I do this through Application Manager not Windows Control Panel? I cannot see where to do this.
The Adobe site says to start AAM by :
Choose Help > Updates in a Creative Suite 5 product.
Double-click PDApp.exe in the following locations: Windows 64 bit: \Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\OOBE\PDApp\core\
If I chose Help in Photoshop 5.5 - the update option is greyed out and not available.
If I follow the second option I get the Creative Cloud Application Manager (version 9) offering me updates for version Photoshop 6 only.
How can I find out if I have a working Application manager for 5.5?
What is the best way to uninstall version 6?
You are right I have found folders / files which need to be cleaned up from CS4 eg: plug ins and a lot of empty folders. What is the best way to clean up these - can I just delete them in Windows Explorer?
Sorry this is long - I am learning as I go
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