DNG files from Pentax k10d in iPhoto?

I have just stated shooting with my new Pentax k10d. A great camera that are able to save not only pentax RAW (PEF) but also DNG files. My old camera is a Canon 300D, I have been using iPhoto 6 as organizer and intend do so even now.
I thought that iPhoto supported DNG, but it can not read any file other than jpeg from the k10d! Really frustating.
Do I have to wait for an update, and for how long? Is there anybody out there who knows?

Martinst:
We have no idea when or if iPhoto will support DNG files. They seem to be preferred by many professional photographers for a number of reasons. We'll just have to wait for iLife 07 to see what iPhoto has added.
However, have you downloaded the Digital Camera RAW Support Update 1.0.1 (PPC). It includes some DNG support.
Do you Twango?
TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.
I've written an Automator workflow application (requires Tiger), iPhoto dB File Backup, that will copy the selected Library6.iPhoto file from your iPhoto Library folder to the Pictures folder, replacing any previous version of it. You can download it at Toad's Cellar. Be sure to read the Read Me pdf file.

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