DNGs disappear from catalog

This has happened to me with 2 separate shoots - raw files imported, changed to dng. Some files edited in LR, some not. Some sent to PSE and brought back into LR, not all. Everything is turned to jpegs, even in library catalog. This has never happened in a year of using LR, now 2x. All raw info and edits are gone, photos are resized for web printing as exported from LR and I cannot get anything back. I could maybe guess that somewhere they were synched, but why are dngs gone in library too? Any thoughts on how to get them back? (I should say that they were shot as both raw + jpeg, only raws selected to be brought into LR from hard drive, and the dngs were definitely there as some were edited.) And yes, in preferences, raw to be separate. Thanks for any help.

Hmmm, I am not sure why my 2 replies above are not showing - sorry, I sent replies from phone and am only checking site now.
@ssprengel, thank you for your reply. I did answer but it's not posted. The jpegs are in the catalog but not the dngs. Only a few of the dngs were edited and exported as jpegs, but all were changed to jpegs. All dngs and edits are gone.
@Rob Cole - thanks also for your reply. I am sure it must be my error, but I don't know how to undo it. I looked in the library at these 2 shoots again tonight, and though I didn't think I stacked them, wanted to make sure. Here's the message I see in the first shoot - "The metadata for this photo has been changed by another application. Should LR import settings from disk or overwrite disk settings with those from catalog?" I have no idea what that would overwrite. There are 2 choices - Import settings from disk, or Overwrite settings, which is the highlighted prompt. In the second shoot, they all have that same message, except for 1, which starts off "The metadate for this photo has been changed by both LR and another application." Some of these photos were brought into PSE, but most were not.
It sounds possible that if I overwrite disk settings with those from catalog, it may revert to the dngs? And I still don't know how I messed up to begin with. Any further thoughts? Thanks for any help.

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