Do I need a RAM upgrade

Hi- I've got a PB 1.67GHZ (aluminum) with 1GB RAM (2 512MB chips).
I tend to leave lots of apps open (around 10) for my workflow. I'm always having to jump between apps. None of them are particularly taxing though I do play one game that takes over the system (so I shut down other apps for that). My system definitely gets slower with lots of apps open.
Currently, my Activity Monitor shows page in/out as 307943/213848. I'm thinking that second number is not good and I ought to get some more RAM.
In addition to recommending a RAM upgrade, should I go for just an upgrade to 1.5GB or go for 2GB?

Currently, my Activity Monitor shows page in/out as
307943/213848. I'm thinking that second number is
not good and I ought to get some more RAM.
Your system is memory deprived. The general guideline is that page outs should be 10% or less of page ins. Yours are currently about 69%, meaning for every 10 page ins, your system is paging out roughly 7 pages. A page out is where the system has to move something out of memory to disk to make room for something else, and that impacts performance.
You can upgrade to 1.5gb by installing a 1gb RAM strip, and monitor your page ins/outs and performance/feel. For what you run, that may do it for you. However, if you don't see much improvement, then going to 2gb is available to you.
Recommend Crucial, Kingston (not their valueram line), or Samsung memory, which has proven reliable in our PB's. Crucial can be found at their website http://www.crucial.com , Kingston at http://www.kingston.com , and Samsung is available from a number of companies, of which OWC at http://www.macsales.com is one source.

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Hi there,
I'm hoping to seek the expert views of the community here.
I have a MacBook Pro, Late 2011, 17 inch. Running latest version of Mavericks. Speed seems to have slowed somewhat, perhaps since I upgraded to Mavericks, but not certain about that. Based on my research of the Apple communities, I suspect that I may benefit from a RAM upgrade.
Attached are a few screen shots to assist:
Based on what I have researched in the community, the fact that I have used 3.99GB of 4.00GB, and have used 5.63GB of Virtual memory, seems to suggest to me that I have well and truly maxed out my RAM. Also there is a high number of read ins/outs (but it had been a wheile since I last did a restart on the MBP (if that has any effect on these numbers here).
I have also read that my model of MacBook Pro is upgradeable to 16GB of RAM (2 x 8GB).
Thoughts and views from the community would be greatly appreciated. Will additional RAM help the speed and performance of my MacBook Pro?
Many thanks.

More RAM is always a Prudent move...
Kerrod wrote:
Will additional RAM help the speed and performance of my MacBook Pro?
It will certainly help with Performance.
Macs can be very Fussy about RAM...
You can use these Links to check which RAM is suitable for your Mac...
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/apple/memory/
http://www.crucial.com
It is Important to get the Correct and Matching RAM
Those sites also have videos on how to Install RAM should you need it....

Does my Macbook Pro need a RAM upgrade?

Hi. I own a Late 2011 MBP and its been acting a little slow lately. its not really slow, but the booting does take longer than before. and applications take a little more time to open for the first time than before. since i need to run quite a bit of heavy applications for my college use, i need to make sure it stands up for it.
i just need to know if its time for a RAM upgrade for my MBP? Will it really make a difference?
Also will it support an 8+8 GB RAM upgrade, or should i go for a 4+4 GB RAM upgrade instead?
is it possible if i can do it by myself? or will need to go to a store?
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psilovefood wrote:
Hi. I own a Late 2011 MBP and its been acting a little slow lately. its not really slow, but the booting does take longer than before. and applications take a little more time to open for the first time than before. since i need to run quite a bit of heavy applications for my college use,
Ram may not be the problem. Look at this article for possible solutions:
http://www.thesafemac.com/mpg/
i just need to know if its time for a RAM upgrade for my MBP? Will it really make a difference?
Not necessarily.
Also will it support an 8+8 GB RAM upgrade, or should i go for a 4+4 GB RAM upgrade instead?
It will support both configurations. How often do you exceed 4 GB of RAM usage. Ram not used is RAM wasted. 16 GB might be necessary. What are the most resource hungry applications that you use?
is it possible if i can do it by myself? or will need to go to a store?
User installation is easy. No need for the store to do it. Look in your users manual for instructions.
Ciao.

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go with 16GB if your Macbook is from 2011 and up.
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7. Samsung (Atleast I think it is?) 2GB @ 139.98
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Geil 4 gig kit $215 (after rebate)
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i have this kit in my SR MBP and its great, same memory spec as required and runs awesome. Did a Rember test on it and passed.
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About OS X Memory Management and Usage
Reading system memory usage in Activity Monitor
Memory Management in Mac OS X
Performance Guidelines- Memory Management in Mac OS X
A detailed look at memory usage in OS X
Understanding top output in the Terminal
The amount of available RAM for applications is the sum of Free RAM and Inactive RAM. This will change as applications are opened and closed or change from active to inactive status. The Swap figure represents an estimate of the total amount of swap space required for VM if used, but does not necessarily indicate the actual size of the existing swap file. If you are really in need of more RAM that would be indicated by how frequently the system uses VM. If you open the Terminal and run the top command at the prompt you will find information reported on Pageins () and Pageouts (). Pageouts () is the important figure. If the value in the parentheses is 0 (zero) then OS X is not making instantaneous use of VM which means you have adequate physical RAM for the system with the applications you have loaded. If the figure in parentheses is running positive and your hard drive is constantly being used (thrashing) then you need more physical RAM.
Adding RAM only makes it possible to run more programs concurrently. It doesn't speed up the computer nor make games run faster. What it can do is prevent the system from having to use disk-based VM when it runs out of RAM because you are trying to run too many applications concurrently or using applications that are extremely RAM dependent. It will improve the performance of applications that run mostly in RAM or when loading programs.

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HP Envy 13 1030nr. Windows 7 64-bit. RAM upgrade help.

I just purchased a RAM upgrade for my Envy 13 and I was trying to figure out how exactly to access the memory module. I couldn't find a youtube video for the Envy 13 and reading the maintenance manual provides only partial instructions to access the memory module. It tells you what you need to do (Disconnect the TouchPad cable 2 from the low insertion force (LIF) connector on the system board) but not how to do it without damaging the computer. I don't want to permanently sever a cable or anything so I'm looking for help via a link to a video or more detailed instructions on exactly how to safely access the memory module.
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> Have tried 2 manufacturers but the PC133 512 isn't compatible. However my system has an IBM chip of PC100 256 in it, which was bought at an earlier stage last year, after much trial and error, and I'm now wondering whether the motherboard will be more suited to PC100 rather than PC133?
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Opinions - time for a new computer? need more RAM, Time Machine back up full - get new computer?

I am in a quandary. My early 2008 iMac needs more Ram. I could upgrade from 2gb to 4gb for around $60. My 1T external hard drive for Time Machine is full and I do not relish the idea of it erasing old data if I continue to use it this way, but then I am shelling out more money for a new hard drive. Can get new 3T hd for about $200. Is it worth it to shore up my computer? I have recently upgraded OS to ML and it is really starting to act sluggish. I hate the idea of having to transfer everything over to a new Mac and therefore new OS. I need a working computer every day for business for my husband, so it would be impossible to go without a computer while things are being transferred over - and how long would it take for me to do that. Plus, will files and photos be transferred over exactly as I have organized them? I have spent a lot of time organizing bookmark folders in Safari, mailboxes in Mail and albums and folders in iPhoto. Don't want to start from scratch again. Also don't like the idea that the new iMacs don't have a slot for dvds and cds, playing and burning. I do a lot of this kind of thing. So then I would need to buy a separate thing for doing this as well as the computer itself. Have wondered how many things have changed from ML to Maverick. Another big learning curve???
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Time Machine should continually erase the oldest backups when it needs space for new ones.
You might want to do both. Upgrade the RAM in the old machine to the max it will take, and buy a new machine as well. If your husband really needs a machine available all the time for business, having a 'spare' is a good thing.
Check out what's available in the refurb store. They are virtually indistinguishable from new retail stock and come with a full warranty. You can save hundreds.
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Mac pro 5,1 RAM Upgrade

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Thanks for your comments.

The biggest official Kingston part is KTA-MP1333/8g which is a single 8GB module.
For 16GB modules the main criteria are that
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It should be ECC (error correcting)
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1.42 GHz iBook G4 w/ 512 MB RAM Upgrade

I have purchased 1 GB RAM to upgrade my iBook G4. What performance enhancements, if any, will be noticeable? What effects will more RAM have?
Thanks!

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Cost/benefit of RAM upgrade for iMac G5 2 GHz from 1.5 to 2.0 GB

Equipment: iMac 20" 2.0 GHz, 250 GB HD, originally 500 MB RAM upgraded to 1.5 GB: (1) 500 MB and (1) 1 GB DDR SDRAM, PC3200U-30330.
Not understanding the subtleties of memory upgrades, I bought this off the shelf with 500 MB RAM. When the processor board was replaced, I added a 1 GB RAM and can't say I noticed any change in performance. It does reduce the need for page outs.
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If I upgraded to 2.0 GB, would there be any improvement in performance? In general or only in certain situations?
If I upgrade RAM, I'll have (2) useless 500 MB DIMMs. Is there any value in these? Where is the best place to sell them or do they have value as trade-ins?
Or is the best use of the money to put towards an Intel Mac that can support 10.6+ ?(...or a share or two of Apple stock.)
Please convey your wisdom. Thanks.
P.S. I know the stock is the best use of my money, so just consider the hardware options.

I happened to find this answer while looking for something else.
iMac G5 and iMac G5 (Ambient Light Sensor): Benefit of using matching memory modules (RAM) http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2708
Condensed version:
Applies only to original iMac G5 and iMac G5 (Ambient Light Sensor).
*If it has matching DIMMS it operates with a 128-bit data path, otherwise it uses a 64-bit data path.* A 128-bit data path allows greater throughput than a 64-bit data path. This allows faster manipulation of large files. With a 128-bit bus, you would see better performance when you have multiple applications open at the same time. Also, some enhanced gaming performance.
According to this, I was getting better performance before I added the 1 GB of RAM, except that degraded performance due to stuffing RAM to the gills has to be weighed against that. Seems like trading up to a full 2 GB would have some unquantified benefits. The only ways to find out are to find another iMac to compare with or to put in the RAM and see what happens.

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