Do I need dbus and avahi ?

I don't use HAL. I mount my DVD and USB drives manually. I just play videos and do encoding and write DVDs usign wodim or k3b. Do I need dbus and avahi daemons runnning ?
HAL was installed automatically as some dependancy for something I don't rememeber. I don't even use GNOME/KDE, I simply use wmii with rxvt-unicode and firefox.

If you use input hotplugging for xorg-server then you need hal which needs dbus.
dbus is alo needed by wpa_supplicant & firefox and many other GUI applications like the gimp etc
i cant seem to find the link dependance on firefox although i could have sworn that it depended on dbus-glib in the past.
since it isnt explicitly disabled in the config im pretty sure firefox uses it http://repos.archlinux.org/viewvc.cgi/f … iew=markup
but i cant be sure as i use the official binary supplied by mozilla, not the archlinux package.
Last edited by dolby (2009-01-24 18:03:29)

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ok, well i didn't read the whole thing, but yes place crond after networkmanager. You can even background crond with the @ symbol: @cond. Mine works fine.
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Note: If you happen to specify the fam daemon in your array, it must appear after networkmanager. The same also applies to portmap and netfs if specified.
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Make sure you adjust all the settings as stated in that ArchWiki-NetworkManager page, and also, check the HAL page in the ArchWiki and also the FAM page and follow the instructions carefully. This is important! I had problems untill i followed the instructions. Also check the ArchWiki for the other apps you have too. Often times, you have to add certain settings, you can't just install the apps and expect them to work. The wiki pages will often tell you what to add or change in various .conf files, etc.
Also, please not from the ArchWiki-FAM page:
Warning: FAM is obsolete; use Gamin instead, if possible. Gamin is a re-implementation of the FAM specification. It is newer and more actively maintained, and also simpler to configure.
That's why i don't have fam, because i am using gamin. If you follow the Beginner's Guide, it will tell you this too.
If you are using FAM for a particular app, it is likely that the app will work with gamin instead. If not, consider not using that app since FAM is obsolete.
I'm guessing you are using Gnome, correct? (Because if you were using KDEmod for Arch, it would have all these things set up without installing FAM)
Directly from the Gnome installation section of the Beginner's Guide:
Warning: The FAM (File Alteration Monitor) daemon is obsolete; use Gamin instead, if possible. Gamin is a re-implementation of the FAM specification. It is newer and more actively maintained, and also simpler to configure:
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Dbus and hal groups, the wiki.

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I was just reading though the beginners wiki and saw about the dbus and hal groups.
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should these two be on my list of daemons to be started, or not?

fuscia wrote:
Gullible Jones wrote:If you have hal on your daemon list, you don't need dbus; the hal script starts that automatically.
whoa! either way, that's good to know.
here's my list - syslog-ng network netfs crond alsa. can i do without any of those? would putting @ in front of any of them make a difference? am i missing something key?
i appreciate the answers. i try to read about this stuff, but it can be so foreign, at times, i still have no sense of judgment about it.
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