Do I need Push?

I think about buying a Blackberry Curve 3G. I have a mobile subscription with 3G internet (no push).
Do I need push for the facebook app, twitter app and email app? Because when I get the Curve 3G I want to use those apps.
Thanks
Machiel
Edit: I just saw i posted this in BlackBerry Curve - BlackBerry 8300 Series Smartphone and not in the Curve 3G section, sorry!
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Hi and Welcome to the Forums!
Things can vary widely by carrier, but in general I'd say "yes". What I suggest you do is to research the services you desire and then talk to your carrier about the appropriate data plan from them to enable those services. A general guideline is available in this FAQ:
http://www.blackberryfaq.com/index.php/What_do_I_need_a_Data_Plan_for%3F
Good luck!
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