Do I need the Pantone Solids books anymore?

Anyone using Pantone Color Bridge swatch books which offers web and 4C process simulations of all spot colors? I haven't had a new pantone book in at least 15 years and decided this is the year I update.
My thinking is that since I rarely print spot color anymore, color bridge and the cmyk books (both in coated and uncoated) might be my best choice. However, though 90% of what I print is 4C digital or offset, people still request pantone colors not realizing that almost everything prints process. Pantone Essential includes spot, bridge and cmyk process. Basically, I'm on the fence regarding getting the pantone solids books which seems redundant these days in the age of short run digital printing as needed. I haven't printed LH, Env and BC solid offset in many years. Envelopes are just about the only thing I still print in PMS colors. But having said that, I print many many short run envelope jobs on my digital press (Ricoh 651EX).
I would appreciate any feedback, pro and con. Thanks.

people still request pantone colors not realizing that almost everything prints process...
Basically, I'm on the fence regarding getting the pantone solids books
I think designers often use the Pantone system as an alternate to color management, and that would work if they were always printing solid inks which of course they are not. So we see many threads about Pantone colors either printing or displaying incorrectly.
The Pantone Bridge colors are single CMYK process builds and how closely they simulate the solid ink printing in Pantone's solid ink formula guide, depends on the 4-color press conditions—the color builds are device dependent. It isn't clear what device or press conditions the Pantone Bridge colors target, but I would bet it's not your Ricoh 651EX. So you could print a Pantone Bridge swatch chart from your Ricoh 651EX and reference it rather than the Pantone solid swatch book and get more reliable color.
The alternative is to make color managed conversions from the Pantone Solid+ Lab (device independent) colors to your press profile. Whether that works depends on the accuracy of the press profile and the understanding that some colors or considerably out-of-gamut. Also using Ink Manager's Spots to Process to make the conversion can be problematic if the color is a tint. See this thread—Re: Ink Manager Bug/Problem?

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I have searched high and low and cannot find a link to download previous pantone color books before Adobe "brilliantly" decided to mess with everyone by only having the pantone+ books. Which have no use for me now as I still have clients that refer to the older books.
i need them now. Specifically the Process Coated and Uncoated Pantone books.
I am incredibly annoyed by this STUPID DECISION ADOBE MADE!
Regards

Okay. I fixed it.
Reason why I asked is because in that thread, it gave the workaround links, which was useless without the color books themselves.
After calling up on buddies, I found someone with Cs5 and got the books from him and added to my library and BOOM it was fixed. That is what I was asking.
Thanks. I solved this one for me.

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I am trying to add a Panton color to my swatches panel. Under Swatches I am selecting "New Color Swatch -> Color Type: Spot ->Color Mode: Solid Coated". What happens next is get a box where I can type the Pantone number I would like ... to the left of this box it reads "Pantone DS". So all of the color choices I might make are not for "Solid Coated" but rather for "DS". I have no idea what "DS" is and it is not what I selected. I selected "Solid Coated". Once again, I am using Indesign CS4 on a Mac Pro ... still running OS 10.4. Can someone please assist me?
Thank you in advance.

Thank you for your response. I have checked the pulldown menu several times. I have checked again as of reading your response. It seems that no matter what Pantone choice I select under the Color mode I get your second window that you posted. On top of that, I have captured the window that comes up when I initially start the add new color swatch .... it looks like this ....
Please notice that the Pantone DS is already beside where you would key in the Pantone number, even though the color mode I am in is CMYK. This does not change when I switch to Spot as shown below.
So I do not believe there is something flawed about my method. It seems as if the Pantone Color Book information is missing for everything else other than the Process Coated.

CS5.5 & CS6 Spot to CMYK conversion not matching Pantone + Guide book

Hey,
I have both cs5.5 & cs6 indesign both of which are giving me different values of cmyk compared against the Pantone + guide, eg if I select pms 173C and convert to cmyk the values are not correct when I check the values in the book is there a way to fix this, other wise it will be highly annoying to have to manually put in the cmyk values for each job when matching spot colours for digital prints. Any help /suggestions or if there is any settings to change?
Cheers.
Jack.

In CS6 the Pantone solid libraries are always defined as Lab—as far as I can tell the Ink Manager's Use Standard Lab Values no longer has any effect.
So these libraries are now defined as Spot colors with Lab definitons–if you convert the spots to process via Ink Manager your document's CMYK profile makes a color managed conversion:
If for some reason you want a predefined CMYK mix (but for what press or device?) there is Color Bridge Coated and Uncoated—those colors are defined as process CMYK. So you could delete PANTONE 173 C and replace it with Color Bridge Coated PANTONE 173 CP.

Pantone Color book (new colours) plugin into my Illustrator CS6 software.

I need to install the Pantone Colour Book plugin which has the new Pantone Color Bridge Colours. Where do I get it from, and how do I install it?

stelmo,
Maybe it is worth having a look at this recent thread:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1263538?tstart=0

Pantone+ Color Bridge Coated vs Pantone+ Solid Coated

In Illustrator CC-2014, why is there a difference in a solid colour for example PMS 123 when one is used from the Pantone+ Color Bridge Coated and the other from the Pantone+ Solid Coated Library.

The reason for the discrepancy is my last results was that while the Working Colour Space was changed from SWOP to SheetFed, it was over looked that the assigned profile remained to that of SWOP. In the screen shots below Working Colour Space and Assigned Profile are set the same. Printed results closely reflect to what I see on screen with the SheetFed Profile producing a better match in my opinion. Cheers

• Want my old "Pantone solid Coated" swatches.

Hello -
Since we made the update of Adobe® CC (coming from old CS5), lot of my colleagues complain
about the LAB pre-visualization of the PMS color (in color palette -> vs. CMYK before).
Is there a way, a place we are could download the old version of the "Pantone solid Coated" (thus not the "Pantone+" one).
NB. We don't really use this last new Pantone colors.
Thank you…
- Dimitri

Hello Monika -
Thanks for your advice…
I did it already, but the problem is that Illustrator (CC) won't let you the option to see the CMYK conversion. It shows the old PMS color with a small LAB icon (no more with a CMYK small icon).
Have a nice day…
- Dimitri

Cannot find the new pms colors Pantone + solid coated

I have a Pantone + Solid coated book that has 336 new colors in the back. Specifically pms 2028 C. The problem is when I try to find it in the PMS charts in Illi CS6 or PS CS6, those 336 new colors are not in my Pantone + Solid coated charts. I ran the adobe updates and it updated what it needed but I'm still unable to find it. Am I looking in the wrong chart? The name matches that of my PMS book so it just doesn't make sense. I scroll through the Illi chart and also try to use the "find" section. Any help is greatly appriciated. thanks Kyle

PMS 2028 (and the list you describe) are not in the current Pantone lists in Illustrator CC (or earlier AI versions).
But you can make a spot color of your own choosing, and call it whatever you want (such as Pantone 2028). You may need to fake or guess on the actual color (in RGB or CMYK), but if you're separating for an actual (non-digital) printing press, your faked color won't make any difference, as the proper ink formulation for your spot color is what actually goes on the paper when it is printed.
If you're not separating for a traditional printing press, then what is the point of needing a specific Pantone color? Other than being used for ink formulations on a (non-digital) printing press, Pantone is an old, useless model, attempting to extend its relevance beyond the pull-date by forming software alliances with such as Adobe, etc.
For non-traditional printing, rather, develop the colors you want according to your specific output device, be it a photo printer, CMYK digital press, etc. -- If you really "like" PMS 2028, then develop that color (probably in RGB/HSB) for your specific output device.
Lastly, if you are printing to an actual printing press, and also need the 2028 color in your pre-press (digital) proofs, then you will need to develop it for your proofer (your specific non-press output device), probably with the caveat to your client that it is a color "approximation." Then use any spot color (titled, "Pantone 2028") for separations, as the actual ink will provde accurate color.

Problem downloaden ebooks. i get the message: 'Elic already fullfilled by another user' ( i had to authorize adobe digital editions on my comp to be able to share a certain book, but now doesnt download books anymore from shop) How can i solve this?

Problem downloaden ebooks. i get the message: 'Elic already fullfilled by another user' ( i had to authorize adobe digital editions on my comp to be able to share a certain book, but now doesnt download books anymore from shop) How can i solve this?

You has a other Adobe ID in Adobe Digital Edition by the First open of the eBook....or you have open the eBook with empty authorization. When has used a other adobe id should change the adobe id, if not the eBook are looked with the empty authorization. In this case need a new Download of the eBook of his reseller.

OK, I need to be able to have a linked TOC, and also have destinations created in FM10 that will not be lost when I 1. Save the book as a PDF. then 2. need the PDF to be as small as possible, but without losing my destinations. Anyone know how to do that

OK, I need to be able to have a linked TOC, and also have destinations created in FM10 that will not be lost when I 1. Save the book as a PDF; then 2. I need the PDF to be as small as possible, but without losing my destinations. Anyone know how to do that??
I had been saving as a PDF and then reducing the size of the PDF by printing it as a PDF with a degree of image compression. I write manuals with a LOT of screen captures and line art that needs to be clear. So it is a balancing act between image clarity and PDF size. The PDFs on the web need to be smaller - sure you can undertsand.
Anyway, when I print the PDF again, I lose both my destinations and bookmarks.
Anyone know of any way to avoid that?

Control the images by creating a custom PDF Job Options and then selecting it in the PDF Job Options drop-down of the PDF setup dialog box (File > Save as PDF...)
Create the custom PDF Job Options file with Distiller. If you do not have Distiller, open the Printing Preferences of the Adobe PDF printer. Start with the Smallest File Size Job Options settings and Edit.

I need to change my iCloud email address. I changed it for my Apple id but I can't log out of iCloud to change it there. Find my iPad is activated so I can't delete my iCloud account. I don't have the email address the iCloud login has anymore.

I need to change my iCloud email address. I changed it for my Apple id but I can't log out of iCloud to change it there. Find my iPad is activated so I can't delete my iCloud account. I don't have the email address the iCloud login has anymore so I can't have the password sent there. To sum it up, iCloud has an old email for the account log-in. I don't remember the password for the old email. I have Find My iPad activated so the iCloud account cannot be deleted. And I am already logged out of iTunes & App Store.

If you mean that Find My Phone is asking for a password to a different Apple ID to your current Apple IDand that ID is a previous version of your current ID, not an entirely different one.
This feature has been introduced to make stolen phones useless to those that have stolen them.
However it can also arise when the user has changed their Apple ID details with Apple and not made the same changes to their iCloud account/Find My Phone on their device before upgrading to iOS 7, or if you restore from a previous back up made before you changed your details and some other circumstances.
The only solution is to change your Apple ID back to its previous state with Apple at My Apple ID using your current password, you don’t need access to this address if it’s previously been used with your Apple ID, once you have saved these details enter the password as requested on your device and then turn off "find my phone" and delete the account from your device. It may take a short while to remove the account.
You should then change your Apple ID back to its current state, save it once again and then log back in using your current Apple ID. Finally, turn "find my phone" back on once again.
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I have an iPhone 5 and a PJ205 ipico Handheld LED Personal Projector for Apple iPhone 4. I bought the apple adapter but now need the app. Apple's App Store doesn't have it anymore, where can I get one?

I have an iPhone 5 and a PJ205 ipico Handheld LED Personal Projector for Apple iPhone 4. I bought the apple adapter but now need the app. Apple's App Store doesn't have it anymore, where can I get one?

Hi Chris.
It's asking you for my apple id password. not going to give that out, sorry.
However I did try this projector on my mother in laws iphone 4 and on my old iphone 3. ipico software isn't needed. plug and play any video through standard movie player or camera saved video.
I tried on my girls iphone 5 with the adapter. The ipico software and projector doesn't work on this phone.
Hope this helped you. Better to buy a used iphone 3 or 4 and use it for video storage.
I also found that the battery on these projectors are a joke (30-60mins max). I rigged a longer lasting battery on the outside and keep it plugged in while using. This doesn't charge the phone though so I replaced the battery in the old iphone 3 and now get at least a full length movie from it. Great in bed projected onto the ceiling.
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Hi there, i've just finish our schools year book (voluntarily) and it has 155 pages incl. front/backcover. This file has 1800 links a lot of photos and a few reports. everytime i go to save as PDF it freezers on page 66. i need the book printed in hi-res?

hi there, i've just finish our schools year book (voluntarily) and it has 155 pages incl. front/backcover. This file has 1800 links a lot of photos and a few reports. everytime i go to save as PDF it freezers on page 66. i need the book printed in hi-res? im running out of "printing time" as we need it back to school by 10th december for 12th December distribution.
what do i do? if i save it in low res pdf everything will be a blur...can someone please come to my rescue. i have a
OS X version 10.8.2,
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Memory 4 GB 1333 MHz RAM
Startup Disk is Moutain Lion
my file is about 24 GB I Purchased a 32 GB USBA stik to save and send to printers.
PDF made easy assistance please anyone out there....?

I do not have InDesign so I can't help you there.
Here is an article from Adobe:
http://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/using/exporting-publishing-pdf.html
Export an open document to PDF for printing
Choose File > Export.
Specify a name and location for the file.
For Save As Type (Windows) or Format (Mac OS), choose Adobe PDF (Print), and then click Save.
When you select the Adobe PDF (Print) option, you cannot include interactive elements in the PDF. To export an interactive document to PDF, see Create interactive documents for PDF.
Do one of the following:
To use a predefined set of job options, choose a preset from the Adobe PDF Preset menu.To create a PDF/X file, either choose a PDF/X preset from the Adobe PDF Preset menu, or choose a predefined PDF/X format from the Standard menu.To customize options, select a category from the list on the left and then set the options.
For Compatibility, choose the lowest PDF version necessary to open the files you create.
Click Export (Windows) or Save (Mac OS).
To reset options to the default, in the Export Adobe PDF dialog box, hold down Alt (Windows) or Option (Mac OS) and click Reset. (The Cancel button changes to Reset.)

How do i setup Mail account on my mac book like in mobile phone? I.e. Don't want to store the mails/attachments on pc, however need the latest emails for given number of days?

How do i setup Mail account on my mac book like in mobile phone? I.e. Don't want to store the mails/attachments on pc, however need the latest emails for given number of days?
This helps the storage and purpose of email as well. I could always log into online email account to find history of emails.
Thanks
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How do i setup Mail account on my mac book like in mobile phone? I.e. Don't want to store the mails/attachments on pc, however need the latest emails for given number of days?
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I have two apple ids one I use everyday an one that's old I need the password an Apple ID from it I don't remember any of it anymore an I didn't have an email at the time so I used a friends email address to activate the id an he passed away so now Stuck

I have two apple ids one I use everyday an one that's old I need the password an Apple ID from it I don't remember any of it anymore an I didn't have an email at the time so I used a friends email address to activate the id an he passed away so now Stuck

Hi St3vish,
Welcome to the Support Communities!
Our Apple ID Account Security Team may be able to help you with this:
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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5699
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