Do I need to patch ASM home?

Hi,
I have a Linux 4 server which has ASM HOME and RDBMS HOME and both are on 10.2.0.2. I want to apply the latest CPU. Do I need to apply CPU on ASM home too. This is not a RAC environment.
--MM

I am sorry about the subject of this thread, its sounds confusing, Anyway. it should have said "Do I need to apply quaterly CPU patches to ASM_HOME too?"
--MM

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user5448593 wrote:
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<< Oracle Documentation >>
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When running more than one database instance on a single server or node, it is recommended that you install ASM in its own Oracle home on that server or node. This is advisable even if you are running only one database instance but plan to add one or more database instances to the server or node in the future.
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2) http://julian.dyke.users.btopenworld.com/com/Blog/2007_01_01_archive.html
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