Do I really need to Shadow Copy Backup Drive?

I am running SBS 2011 Standard. Every once in a while I get "volsnap event id 25 (The shadow copies of volume \\?\Volume{4bac8e93-04ed-11e2-814f-90b11c020377} were deleted because the shadow copy storage could not grow
in time. Consider reducing the IO load on the system or choose a shadow copy storage volume that is not being shadow copied.)".
The referenced volume is actually my backup drive which is a "simple, basic, NTFS primary partition" without an assigned drive letter which is entirely devoted to Windows backup destination drive.
VSSADMIN LIST SHADOWSTORAGE shows:
Shadow Copy Storage association
   For volume: (\\?\Volume{4bac8e93-04ed-11e2-814f-90b11c020377}\)\\?\Volume{4ba
c8e93-04ed-11e2-814f-90b11c020377}\
   Shadow Copy Storage volume: (\\?\Volume{4bac8e93-04ed-11e2-814f-90b11c020377}
\)\\?\Volume{4bac8e93-04ed-11e2-814f-90b11c020377}\
   Used Shadow Copy Storage space: 2.094 MB (0%)
   Allocated Shadow Copy Storage space: 2.93 GB (1%)
   Maximum Shadow Copy Storage space: UNBOUNDED (100%)
which I assume means VSS is actually keeping a shadow copy of the backup drive (or trying to).
My question is - do I really need to shadow copy this volume? If not would I stop this by the following command?
VSSADMIN DELETE SHADOWSTORAGE /FOR={4bac8e93-04ed-11e2-814f-90b11c020377}

Just did a quick bit of research on this and I think the error may be misleading.
If you go into Disk Management, right click Disk Management, All Tasks - Configure Shadow Copies
Do they show as Disabled on that volumeID?
If I go into Windows Server Backup and check out the Details, I see (on this system) 70.63gb of Backup Items, and 186gb of Copies. Which tallies up with what I see under List ShadowStorage.
So, what I suspect is happening (although happy to be proved wrong) is that the error above is VSC making space on your backup disk, or some other management process of the backups themselves.
I expect if you delete that Shadow Storage you will in fact, be deleting the backups.
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