Do I use Oracle SOA Suite or OSB or both ?

Hi,
I've done some research on the web but still it seems slightly ambiguous to me. If a company has requirements for moderate levels of business services (<100) what is the best Oracle service bus choice?. It feels like OSB and SOA Suite overlap a lot, so it makes the choice confusing if the goal is to keep it simple and allow quicker time to market. So I have some questions
Q1. Under what scenarios would you use/need:
a. OSB only
b. SOA Suite only
c. Both of the above
Q2. What is Oracle's product strategy concerning these. Is OSB the product they are pushing going forward etc ?
Q3. What is the better choice if I want to have strong but simple security ? Does this make a difference to the choice ?
FYI, Oracle BPM will be used in addition to the above, so integration to that will be required.
TIA

Q1. Under what scenarios would you use/need:https://blogs.oracle.com/fmwsoa/entry/oracle_soa_suite_bpel_and
OSB use cases
Q2. What is Oracle's product strategy concerning these. Is OSB the product they are pushing going forward etc ?SOA and OSB complete each other and hence both will be available in the future. OSB acts as a primary enterprise service bus whereas SOA holds complete business process middleware.
Q3. What is the better choice if I want to have strong but simple security ? Does this make a difference to the choice ?Both can provide almost same level of security.
Regards,
Anuj

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    Please share me the Oracle SOA Suite 11.1.1.5.0 and OSB installation setup.
    like Oracle Weblogic server for OSB, RCU, SOA Suite.
    I could able to find in Oracle site only the latest SOA version [11.1.1.6.3] not the older versions.
    Thanks,
    Pradeep

    Pradeep,
    You may find 11.1.1.5 installable at https://edelivery.oracle.com
    It is recommended to use latest version available though.
    Regards,
    Anuj

  • Installing SOA Suite 11gR1 + OSB 11gR1 on Solaris x64

    Experts,
    I'm having some trouble installing SOA Suite and OSB on Solaris x64.
    According to the last certification matrix
    [http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/middleware/downloads/fmw-11gr1certmatrix.xls]
    ALL products are supported on Solaris x64 (version 11.1.1.4+) , but when trying to execute the runInstaller I get the following error:
    $ ./runInstaller -jreLoc /usr/jdk/instances/jdk1.6.0/
    ./runInstaller: /soasoat/install/SOA/Disk1/install/solaris/runInstaller: cannot execute
    I searched in eDelivery but there aren't any SOA installers (for version 11.1.1.1) for Solaris on x64
    Is there any way to bypass this error?
    Thanks in advance.
    Leandro

    Hi Leandro
    1. SOA Installer has nothing to do with 32/64 bit. I mean there is NO specific 64 bit version of soa software. It is the underlying Weblogic Server that matters.
    2. Since you have 64 bit machine, very first thing, you should install a 64 Bit JDK (Sun or JRockit). And make sure to put this in path. When you run java -version, you should see this 64 bit jdk referred. Now comes Weblogic Server. You need to Download Weblogic Server Generic Installer (file ending with .jar). Then you install Weblogic server using command something like this:
    java -d64 -jar weblogic_generic_xxxx.jar (Try -d or -D). After installation, now you have Weblogic Server 64 Bit installed on top of 64 Bit JDK.
    3. Now run the SOA Installer and for the jre, you can refer the above jdk/jre location.
    Thanks
    Ravi Jegga

  • Oracle SOA Suite 11g (BPEL Process) Dependency with Database

    Folks,
    Oracle SOA Suite 11g requires a relational DB like Oracle, SQL Server to maintain the Metadata for the SOA & Related Components.
    Can you plz let me know with your experience - what should happen to a running BPEL Process if the database (SOAINFRA) is down? Being very specific -
    1, Does/Should end-point become inaccessible? Or Does service remains accessible but throws service remote-fault execption?
    2, What happens to a process which is in running state?
    My experience in these scenarios is not encouraging; we have notices the following -- during the time when our SOAINFRA database is down, the in-process (running) instances are left in a running state. These instances do not complete or move forward even when the Database is back. These instances do not provide any information in the Enterprise Manager.
    Also, if DB is down WSDL's are still accesssible, is this right way?
    If this is how SOA does work then I would doubt for its merit……...your thought plz????
    Thanks & Regards
    Shyam Kumar

    I am not posting here because I'm smart but because your questions look interesting.
    during the time when our SOAINFRA database is down, the in-process (running) instances are left in a running stateYou know that BPEL is a state-full product and it needs database support for persisting the process of state so if database goes down it is an expected behavior that processes may stuck in the same state where they were when DB went down. I don't see anything wrong with it.
    These instances do not complete or move forward even when the Database is back.Instances should auto/manually recoverable. If this is not the case then you may raise a SR with support.
    These instances do not provide any information in the Enterprise Manager. What information you could not find? Can you be more clear on this?
    Also, if DB is down WSDL's are still accesssible, is this right way?Yes, again it's expected because design time data also gets stored in DB only and hence if DB goes down, any design time data may not be accessible.
    If this is how SOA does work then I would doubt for its merit……...your thought plz????Why so? Alternative of DB is physical memory and that I don't think is perfect for long running BPEL processes and their heavy design time data. Moreover, it will create problems in terms of auditing, support and maintenance. If your requirement is such that it does not need any long running BPEL processes and even auditing is not required and use case is simple routing and transformation with no DB dependency then you may go for OSB which is a stateless product. BPEL is generally used for long running processes and hence DB is the best option, in my opinion at least.
    Regards,
    Anuj

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