Do newer MBPs have PMUs?

I have a 2010 17" MBP and my wife has a 2010 13" MBP. Both are having the same charging problem where the adapter is plugged in, the light on the MagSafe plug is orange but the computer is not charging. By fiddlying with the end you can usually get it to start charing, but it is getting harder to do. I have thoroughly cleaned the male and female ends as described in this article: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1713. The pins appear to be functioning correctly. Disconnecting the power unit for 60 seconds to deal with line noise does not appear to help. So I am wondering if these units have PMUs that can be reset? Or might resetting the PRAM do any good? The only other thing I can imagine is that the connection on the computer is wearing out. If so, surely there must be some track record on that. Is this a common problem others have had? It just seems odd that I have 2 computers with 2 different power adapters that have identical problems.

Older Macs it's PMU. Newer Macs it's SMC.
Intel-based Macs: Resetting the System Management Controller

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What kind of Intel chips does new MBP have?

...or even an iMac for that matter.
I tried to look at Intel website to try to identify both the codename and the processor type.
For example the best MBP processor you can get is the 2.8 GHz one and that might be either the Penryn 2.8 GHZ with L2 cache of 6144KB or the Merom one with the same frequency but with L2 cache of 4096 KB.
Also If that is the case both of the procs are rated Intel Core 2 Extreme (one is X7900 and the other is X9000). So if that's the case can we assume that the new MBPs can be fitted with intel core 2 extreme mobile procs?
Also the same story applies to the new iMac Intel 3.06 GHz...what kind of processor is that? best guess is that it is an E8400?
Thanks.

Hi Andrei,
Stefan...you're implying that the iMac uses a notebook proc? And yes i couldn't find the 3.06 GHz proc anywhere on Intel's website.
Follow the link I provided to the X9100.
The Intel iMacs were always based on Notebook technology ever since they came out.
Only exception is the usage of a 3.5" harddisk.
Mainly because of the integrated design of the iMacs and the need to have a decent cooling of the CPU and GPU made it a neccessity for Apple.
Andrei
PS: Come to think of it, i think it's the PC side of me still talking and asking useless question like what core 2 duo quad extreme blah blah proc does it have... Still new to Mac world.
No need for explanations of your intentions to ask.
This is the place to ask and as you can see you usually get answers.
Stefan

Will my new MBP have the same IP address if I use Migration Assistant?

In a couple of weeks I'll have my new MacBook Pro-13". I want to transfer all files from my current Intel MacBook via Migration Assistant. I'll have both Macs running 10.6.3 Snow Leopard or latest OS when I do this.
OK but now I still want to use the old MacBook -but won't the IP Address (looks like this: 192.168.0.###) be the same on both Macs after using Migration Assistant? If so, then how do I avoid that? Do I set-up my NEW MacBook Pro first and then use Migration Assistant? Or ???
Thanks for any advise as I will only have a couple of days to set-up my new MBP as I am giving the old MB to my daughter and then she's leaving to fly home! If no volcano of course!
Thanks,
Steve

Hi
+"are you saying that when I first start-up the new MBP my home wired and wireless internet setup will assign an IP number to the MBP that will be different from the existing MB?"+
Yes. Most 'ad-hoc' home networks will have 'something' handing out IP addresses. Typically this will be a Router or possibly Router/Modem combination depending which kind of DSL Service you have. In an environment like this the Router/Gateway will be the DHCP Server. If you're not manually assigning IP address this would be the case. No DHCP Server AFAIK hands out the same IP addresses to two or more separate devices connecting to the same network. If you are manually assigning IP Addresses you still would not do this. Even if you did a warning message would appear telling you the IP address was in use. This is typical of the sort of basic networking most home environments have.
+"Further I should then use Migration Assistant but I should NOT ENABLE the option to transfer network settings?"+
As already mentioned whenever I've tried this they never transfer anyway. In which case don't bother selecting the option. If you're using firewire cables you don't have to have them connected to any network at all.
It's always a good idea to turn on anything new and test it. It's not impossible for there to be a hardware problem. It's rare but it does happen.
HTH?
Tony

After migrating to new MBP have two versions of GarageBand

Just finished migrating to my new MBP from an older MBP. I had the latest version of GB on the older machine. After completing the migration, found two copies of GB on the new machine. One is the latest version, 10.0.1 and the other is GB '11 (V 6.x.x). Can I remove the older one without causing any problems with the lastest version?
Thanks all

léonie, I am able to reinstall 6.0.5 from the app store. It says it's not available in the store but it will still let me download it. Not sure if it would be able to install it on a Mac that didn't come with it.
That is very good news, isteveus. Perhaps Apple support has changed the policy. It may depend on the country. I am seing this - GarageBand 6.0.5 is showing as installed, when I am viewing the AppStore, but I cannot view it, when I want to check the system requirements. I get the "Item not available" warning. What happens, when you click the 6.0.5 icon? When I trash GB 6.0.5 and reload the App Store, the "Install" button stays dimmed. I just tried again.
Congratulations to reaching level 5, by the way, isteveus! The new pentagon badge suits you!

My new MBP is really messed up and I am wondering what I should do.

(sorry for the mess of a post. I just had the good news of having brain cancer and they put this dressing all over my entire head I can barely see, but I want to post this, so I am going to give it a shot.)
I went to see a genius at the local apple store. After spending 1 hour trying to fix all the software and hardware issues, he went to the back of the store, came back and said we are getting you a new MBP with all the equivalant upgrades you had with the other one (the one that had all the problems). I received the new MBP, the same genius said if I leave my old MBP with him he will transfer all the data over and call me when it is done. I got the new MBP, have had it for about 3 weeks and there are more problems than ever. I have no idea what this would do to a new computer but the genius transfered all my data/files/settings over to my new MBP and he did this before or without fixing all the software problems I was having on the computer he transfered my date from.
Now my software updates... is not working. I read the article, trashed 3 apple.softwareupdates.com preferences wit no help. I find out that he said after I asked about iLife; "yes you will get iLife, all Apple computers come with iLife. There is no iLife 09 just my old iLife 08. When I spotlight iLife 09, no iLife comes up only in emails. It does not even pick up my old 08iLife that is in a folder which was transfered over from my old computer.
The manager at the apple store said to install iLife09 from the gray disk. However, for some reason the new updates my computer needs are not triggering the software updater telling me there are new updates. It looks like the genius did an update before I picked it up and it updated one security issue, but no iTunes 9/1/1 or any other updates I should have received when I look at all the recent MBP update (Apple updates only) list.
When I do go to look at the current updates for this computer it brings me to an Apple website that has all my old updates from the old MBP and in a Finder file it shows all the updates from the old computer and just the one that the genius updated for me.
Does any body have any idea what I should do? It is frustrating. I would like to just start from the beginning with the new computer, wipe everything off and install it all new and get rid of all the stuff from my old MBP that was transfered to my new MBP.
Thank for any help.

I would wipe the hard drive and start from scratch. The only thing I would save from the old comp are documents, movies and music also make sure you have any passwords or mail that you need to keep. I would avoid Time Machine and just do a normal backup. Boot from the installer and go to disk utilities in the menu and erase the hard drive. When that is done do a custom install and avoid any demos and software you don't use. Install QuickTime 7 from the optional installs.
Then manually download and install the OS updates before installing any third party apps avoiding the combos. Depending on your install OS version you may not need all those below.
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/macosx_updates/macosxv1061update.htm l
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/macosx_updates/macosxv1062update.htm l
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1018
When you are done run software update and install the security updates only. When you are done with those you can install whatever application updaters there are and then move on to installing your third party apps.
Hope everything works out for you.

New MBP's: H.264 acceleration?

So the new MBPs have this spiffy nVidia card (8600M GT) that does full H.264 decode acceleration in hardware. Does anybody know if this hardware is supported in OS X at all? Playing 1080P trailers from apple.com/trailers in quicktime player seems to still use considerable CPU, and I see the same results when playing them in mplayer or vlc (except mplayer and vlc do a better job of keeping audio in sync)...
MacBook Pro 2.2GHz LED Mac OS X (10.4.10)

H.264 is much slower codec than many other ones.
And, at those giant frame sizes, it wouldn't
surprise me to see such long encode times.
More than six hours ago, I took four short (six minutes or so each) Flash video files to Compressor 3 and sent this batch to transcode to H.264. The first clip went off merrily and the Activity Monitor showed 145% activity of the CPU. It was done in 13 minutes, the second ckip took 14 minutes and the remaining two clips are still there with very little progress in transcoding. The Activity Monitor shows from five to 10 per cent Compressor usage of the CPU.
This is definitely not due to "giant frame sizes". Somewhere along the way Compressor 3 slowed down dramatically.

Question about keyboard on new MBP compared to older ones

I have had a MacBookPro3,1 for almost two years now. Mostly I like it but the keyboard has always been somewhere between bad and terrible. My 12 inch AiBook had the best keyboard I've even seen on a laptop, this current MBP one of the worst. It was always kind of squishy feeling, but within about 6 months the "C" key quit working entirely so I bought a stand alone apple keyboard that i have been using since then. That's another story since several of the letters have worn completely off, some keys stick, etc. but my question is whether the new MBP have any better keyboard than the two year old on, or if it's the same squishy one that was there on mine. And yes, I know i could have sent it back for a repair under the warranty for the broken key, but I was in a position where I couldn't afford to be without it for even a single day at that time.
Thanks for all replies

iyacyas wrote:
I would have to totally agree with EWW...
I also agree that the 12" not only has the best keyboard but is the best Mac ever, and I am not looking forward to the day that I have to put the ol' girl down.
I still mourn mine. One tiny solder connection on the motherboard broke, and it is $800 to replace, but I sure loved that computer. Bought it the week it was introduced and it was wonderful.

I Have "New" MBP (Mid 2009) and Would Like to Use Airport Extreme

This might be a very basic question , but I do not know the answer so I came to some experts for help. I have a "new" MBP OS 10.6.4 SL. I received it about 1 month ago after the genius bar could not fix a 3 year-old MBP. At one time the Airport Extreme was hooked up when I first got the 3-year-old MBP, but I kept running into troubles with it so I purchased a Verizon MiFi2200.
I have this new MBP, I still have the MiFi2200 from Verizon which I access via Airport. I would like to try the 3 year-old Airport Extreme again, but I am wondering if having the Verizon MiFi2200 will allow me to also have the Airport Extreme. Also, I am wondering if this Airport Extreme is too old for what is currently available (and if it is secure enough). I would need to get help from Applecare. I tried once, when I first started having trouble with it, and it was way beyond my ability. I think I made things worse and I hope I did not do any hardware damage. I tried to set it up, after having it disconnected for about 2 years, and I did not call applecare.
So I am wondering if I can have the MiFi2200 installed by VZAccessManager (but turned off when I use the Airport Extreme) and the 3 year-old Airport Extreme 802.11n Wi-Fi Base Station set-up at the same time. Also, is this model still OK to use (I really have no idea how long something like this Airport Extreme is good to use), and if I can use it, are there online instructions to set it up or would it be best to get Applecare's help. I would also like to know how I could find out if there have been any firmware updates or other updates for this Airport Extreme since it was last used (about 2 years ago)
thanks in advance and I apologize if my terminology is not correct or too amateurish.

OK, I am not following you exactly and I guess it is important to know what the existing set-up is like. Maybe you will understand my amateurish language. Before I moved in to this condo, the manager of the complex asked me if I need to use the ethernet ports in the rooms or will I be setting up a wireless connection. I said, for now I will be using the ethernet ports in the rooms of the condo. She said Ok, I will be up to your condo to put in a modem. (She could have said router or modem, I am not sure if there is a difference, but I do know the Airport Extreme is considered a router.) She opened this box that is on the wall while she said this is where the "T1" line comes into your condo, and T1 (I think I have the right term she used) is the fastest way to get around the internet. In the box in the wall is an electrical outlet (which the tiny blue modem (I will call this a modem because I am not sure what it is) is plugged into. In the back of the tiny blue modem are 5 ethernet ports and that is all, except for the power cord which connects to the side of the tiny blue modem. In the box, already screwed into place is a CAT5 ethernet strip, for lack of a better term that has 12 ethernet ports but only 4 are actually marked. I think the four that are marked are the ones that can be used, if I needed this many, but I am only using 3 and the ethernet cable goes from one of the ethernet ports on this CAT5 strip which is connected to the T1 line, and one of the 3 ethernet cables goes from the back of the tiny blue modem to one of the ethernet ports on this CAT5 strip (one that is marked as previously described) So I can hook up to the internet by using one of the 3 ethernet plugs in the various rooms of the condo or I can use the MiFi2200 from Verizon for a wireless connection. I have already told you why I prefer not to use the Verizon MiFi2200 and why I would like to set-up my Airport Extreme.
As far as wanting to use the existing ethernet ports in the 3 rooms, I do not care about that unless the Airport Extreme does not work. The manager who initially hooked up the tiny blue modem said if I want a wireless connection I do not need the tiny blue modem. If I do want to use the ethernet ports in the rooms via an ethernet cable, I need the tiny blue modem. If this is tru or if I can have one and not the other, I really did not get a sense I could or could not have both a wireless and ethernet connections at the same time.
Why would I want to plug the 3 or 4 ethernet cables that go from the tiny blue modem to the ethernet strip? The ethernet strip has about 10 ethernet ports, 3 of which are marked and I assume only those 3 can be used since there are only 3 actual ethernet ports in the walls in various room for connection.
I know this is a different set-up but when I used the Airport Extreme before, I had a cable come in to my house from Comcast which was hooked up to a modem. One ethernet cable went from the modem to the back of the Airport Extreme which after Applecare helped me set up the Airport Extreme the whole house was wireless.
In this condo, which is smaller than the house I had, why do I need all 3 ethernet cables to go from the CAT5 strip to the back of the Airport Extreme? Again, on the 12 port CAT5 strip, only 3 are labeled with some code, and those 3 go out to the wall ethernet ports.
Are you getting ready to give up on me?

Getting a new MBP and I have a few questions

I'm getting a new MacBook Pro, replacing my Late 2008 model (2.8 GHz T9600, 320 GB HD, 4 GB RAM) for this years' late 2011 model, a 2.4 GHz (2760QM) quad-core Intel Core i7 Sandy Bridge, 750 GB, 4 GB RAM.
Now, this new computer is basically an early xmas gift, as opposed to an informed purchase. I haven't done much research on the latest MBP, or their improvements in the past 3 years, so my first question is...how much of an improvement is this computer from my old 2008 model? Even though it's 3 years old, I've never had many problems with it. Programs like Photoshop and Logic work well. The only time the computer has shown its limitations is when I started playing Starcraft II.
Another issue: As we all know, our computers can get cluttered over time with forgotten apps, old versions of apps, old preferences or system files, remnants of apps I've deleted (I do have CleanApp but the program scares me...I'm afraid of deleting something important)...just digital garbage that manages to accumlate over time. There's some critical things that I want to transfer over from my old computer to the new one, but I don't want to transfer that clutter either. I'm pretty sure I prefer to start with a fresh disk and just slowly go through my old data while reinstalling the apps I want, but that brings up concerns about products that limit # of installs. I also don't want to worry about forgetting something, not realizing I've overlooked it until a while later. I'm sure I'm overthinking all this, but I'm sure people on here have gone through these options. I want to start fresh, but not completely fresh, you know? (e.g. I don't mind reinstalling Chrome, but I want to keep all my bookmarks)
Last issue,
I may possibly enter a line of work where I'll need to work with Windows (uggh), so I want to know what the better option is...Boot Camp or Parallels? I had Parallels on the old computer and I found it frustrating. Especially since all of the Windows apps/files show themselves on Launchpad, or sometimes I would accidentally select a Windows item while in Finder and Parallels would start booting. Boot Camp seems much simpler, but I've never used it. Can you use an external hard drive for it, or do you have to partition your internal one? Is there someway you can transfer files between operating systems...this is the only appeal of Parallels if not. It doesn't have to be instantaneous; just wondering if I can access windows files while in OS X and vice versa.
Sorry for long post and all the questions , I look forward to the responses.

Performance differences for simple applications will be virtually undetectable when compared with your older MBP. The more complex the application, the differences will be revealed. Games often are notorious resource hogs and I suspect you will see a significant improvement there.
As far as transferring data, that is an individual call as to what is desirable and should be retained and what can be omited. Before you start the transfer process, do have backups just in case.
Best of luck with your new MBP.
Ciao.

How can I get ilife (iphoto/imovie) on my Used Retina ... Previously purchased new mbp 17 and have an Imac 27....

Well I just purchased another Retina mbp 15 and this ones a keeper (sold 2 before this was just looking for a mint one). Now my issue is I cant get ilife (in particular imovie and iphoto) without purchasing it and I dont want to do that.... yet.
I did purchase a brand new mbp 17 in 2010 but not sure if I registered it or logged into the app store. Dont think I did because I dont see any downloads available in the app store.
I have an imac 27 Im using right now and I dug up the appllications cd it came with.
My questions are:
How can I install ilife or any of the apps without buying them?
Are the applications one use only for the specific machines?
Is there any way to use the resource dvd to install onto my retina ?
(regarding this I have tried using remote disc and my retina wont show anything under remote disc when the cd is in my ima )
ANy input or help is appreciated. I did enjoy using imove and iphoto alot and would like to have them again.

I appreciate the replies. Grant if I have an Imac and the apps on the cd then what you are saying is it should be tied to my apple id and therefore I should be able to install them on my new macbook?
I dont recall when I bought my mbp 17 if it had a cd and back then it was my first mac.. dont think there was an app store just itunes. It isnt tied to my account but shouldnt it be? I guess the person who bought that 17 from me got a free bundle :/
Its not a matter of $30 I understand that fully. Its just its $30 wasted if I am able to get it.
What im confused about (and I dont care to argue apples reasoning for it) is tying ilife to 'that Mac alone" is just dumb when a new owner of a machine cant install it and has to buy it again. that means the original owner keeps the apps for any machine he wishes and it isnt for the machine.
I think im confusing myself and possibly answered my own question but ill leave it lol.

Still Have v. 10.4.11 but am configuring a new MBP and I need some advice..

hey-
I am replacing my 3 year-old MBP which never made it to the Leopard stage, because I was chicken. This one is going to be cleaned up and given to a family next door from a real poor area of Mexico and until they saw this had never seen a notebook. So I am excited about this.
anyway, I am configuring a new MBP together and I have a few questions that are probably pretty basic, but still questions. I should have thought of this before, but is getting a new MBP with Snow Leopard installed on the machine (and I was old by the support guy who helped me with the configuration since it will be used for a graduate school of architecture, planing, and preservation program too.
any feeling on jumping from 10.4.11 (which I guess is Tiger OS X) to Snow Leopard and totally bypassing Leopard? It sounds like Snow Leopard is pretty much a major "update" to Leopard, but that is probably wrong. (Just a side questions, what does the Operating System OS X mean and do all of the operating system have OS X or did it start at OS 1 and will keep going up?)
Is there a time when a person who wants to try and focus on school or other important things can pretty much be sure that a new OS has had sufficient time for the major bugs to be worked out and most likely can feel safer about making the purchase than if they had not waited and did not really care-thinking that Apple would get them fixed and the updates would fix the problems? I do not tend to think this way, but in this situation I am going out a bit from my usual "way" and living or should I saying hoping that this has happened and is true? Does that make sense? So, any feeling if SL has been out long enough now that Apple has had a chance to make sure it is doing well and has pretty much been integrated into the hardware and properly functioning of the notebook as a "single unit?"
thanks in advance for any feedback and I apologize if the wording was incorrect or I did not explain myself clear enough.

You should not find it hard to jump from using Tiger (Mac OS 10.4) directly to using Snow Leopard (Mac OS 10.6). Some things are a little different, including a few changes to system preferences & how the Finder handles changing views from one folder to the next, but it is fundamentally the same from a user interface standpoint. In fact, there are very few interface differences you would notice between using Leopard (Mac OS 10.5) & Snow Leopard.
What you will most likely notice the most when going from a 3 year old MBP to a new one is that its response is substantially quicker: startup is quicker, apps open faster, Finder tasks complete in less time, etc. This is due both to the more powerful CPU & other components in the new machine & to the new OS, which is more efficient than previous ones.
"Mac OS" is the generic name for Apple's proprietary operating system that runs Macintosh computers. There were versions 1 through 9 of this operating system, starting with the one developed by Apple for the first Mac that appeared in 1984, but the first version to get the "Mac OS" designator was Mac OS 8, released in 1997. It was followed by Mac OS 9, released in 1999. All of these versions can be considered decedents of the first one, with strong family resemblances both in their internal structures & graphic user interfaces. Mac OS X is much different internally, incorporating many components of the venerable UNIX operating system first developed in 1969 at AT&T's Bell lab, plus a graphic user interface update (named "Aqua") more suited to its greatly improved capabilities. It is not a "pure" UNIX variant but instead a synthesis of UNIX & Apple's old & current technologies.
Each major revision of Mac OS X has had a cat name & a "point number" like Cheetah for 10.0 or Tiger for 10.4. Each revision has brought new features to the OS as well as under-the-hood improvements. Unfortunately, these improvements come at a cost in terms of legacy support. Some applications require revisions to work with each new major version, as do some of the drivers for external hardware. Generally speaking, fairly current apps & hardware drivers have gotten or will get revised for Snow Leopard if needed, but there are no guarantees that all ever will.
There are also bugs in every major OS release from every OS maker. Generally, these are obscure, affect few users significantly, & are eliminated in updates released after the first major version, but even the updates can introduce new bugs. Snow Leopard appears to be more bug free than any prior Mac OS major release, but the possibility exists that some bug will affect you in some critical way.
That said, the chances of this are low, & you should not read too much into reports here of problems unless they are widespread & describe very closely the same problem. Keep in mind that there are already several million copies of Snow Leopard in use; any really widespread problems would result in tens of thousands of complaints & probably make the evening news as well.

I currently have a mbp with two internal hard drives ( took super drive out) which for a video editor like myself is a dream I can edit video anywhere, my question can I order a new mbp with 2 internal flash drives?

I currently have a mbp 2.3 gighuz intel core 7 16 gig of ram with two internal hard drives ( took super drive out) which for a video editor like myself is a dream I can edit video anywhere, my question can I order a new mbp with 2 internal flash drives?

I wouldn't think so because the newer ones with Retina displays don't have an internal SuperDrive that can be replaced. Therefore the newer logic boards wouldn't have the two SATA/SATA Express connections on the logic board.
At least that was the case as of 2012. I've seen newer ones and they also don't have a SuperDrive.

Does anyone have trouble with the new MBP unibody cover/lid falling shut?

My new MBP unibody lid will close inadvertently after a certain angle. The tension on my white Macbook was nice--I could angle the lid at ANY angle, from all the way open to almost closed, an d it would stay put. Not the MBP. As I lay in bed with this new laptop, if the sceen isn't angled far enough back it just swings shut, as if it is too heavy or the tension of the hinges isnt tight enough! Anyone else have this problem? I read somewhere that Steve Jobs "intended it to be this way." Huh.

I have a 17" mid-07 MBP
I have the same problem. I'm currently sick in bed for the last 2 days and have been going crazy with this problem. I spent half the day looking online for some kind of clamp to keep the screen from being able to close. Basically every 3 minutes I have to push my screen back again. Every time I cough. My lid comes flying down. So annoying.

Why was there over ten thousand file in my "All My Files" on my new MBP. I'm very new at using ICloud. I don't understand syncing vs time vs time vs syncing! I simply have not idea how to manage my file now.

Why is there over ten thousand file in my "All My Files" on my new MBP. I'm very new at using ICloud. I don't understand syncing vs time vs time vs syncing! I simply have not idea how to manage my files now. I read short comments & how to's in the support sections, but nothing I've read so far explains"best practices" or turning iCloud off to get a grip on managing files. I have 250gb fast storage on the MBP itself, and 200gb in the ICloud, one would thing that's enough. The files seem too be multiplying like rabbits. IPhoto's Faces has created hundereds of "somethings" not sure what. I am sure I am very frustrated! Please comment with kindness.

gf raines wrote:
Yes,I am confused. To say its just another drive is a "buzz statement".
OK, for example. If I download a document, song, or photo from ICloud, as I understand, it goes to Download in Finder. If I want to move it to a local folder of my choice on the solid state drive in my new MBP, does a copy always stay in ICloud? How do you housekeep? I have always used to a physical drive. What is different about the mind set. I used ICloud to store the contents of my old MBP. Once I download all the files I need, should I turn off ICloud and manage the file locally? I don't like the automatic movement of files when I don't understand the locations.
Nope, you don't understand it.
If you download a song from the iTunes cloud storage (which is not iCloud) it goes into the iTunes music folder (generally to a subfolder therein)
If you download a document from the iCloud drive it will go wherever you chose to put it.
If you download a photo from the iCloud Photo library it will also go wherever you choose to put it.*
If you move something you have not copied it, if you want to keep a copy on the iCloud drive and in a local folder, you would copy, not move it.
There is no 'automatic' movement, you decide what to store on the iCloud drive (exactly like any other drive) and what to remove.
The iCloud drive appears as a folder in Finder, you use it just like any other, copy/paste, save, delete etc.
You can turn the iCloud drive off whenever you like, download the content to a local drive first.
* Because the iCloud drive appears as a folder in Finder there is in fact no need to ever download anything to your Mac, everything on the drive is already on your Mac.

Steps to Transfer mail from Older MBP 10.6.8 to Newer MBP 10.8.5 for NON-tech person I really just need the simplest solution. I have cleaned out old folders on the OMBP, but there are folders I need for work

I really just need the simplest solution. I have cleaned out old folders on the OMBP, but there are folders I need for work.
I am not a technical person. I have gone online and read a gazillion "All Ya Gotta Do...." to the point where my head swims.
I backed up my older MBP onto WD Passport Studio via Time Machine.
I transferred all my files there and put them all onto the newer MBP.
I expected to see Mail but did not.
Someone said just use Migration Assistant, but I dont find that anywhere.
Please dont say iCloud because I dont even know what it is. Sorry, but I just dont use my Mac other than for work, meaning online access for research, and then typing reports of various kinds... and for emailing.
Can I just hook the firewire directly from OMBP to NMBP and copy them that way??
Sorry I am such a dolt, but I really just want easy step by step instructions, thank you.
Would the Genius Bar at my local store be able to help me???
Thank you,

Okey Dokey!
I followed the steps for the Target Disk thing, and was able to transfer everything on my old desktop, in my old pictures file... all the final transfers regarding my documents and photos.
BUT
there were no folders for Mail, and when I went to the only folder I could find that said "Mail" -- which was under "applications" it then told me that I could not transfer old "mail" to new "mail" since they were different versions...
Now THIS makes sense,,, and I was not looking to do that...
but how do I find all my mail folders????
Is there someplace I should be saving them in order to get them???
Do you mind helping me with instructions on how to do this?
Thanks!

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