Do referenced iPhoto pics reflect editing done in iPhoto?

I'm an Aperture newbie and am mulling the pros and cons of importing versus referencing my iPhoto library in Aperture. While I think I've got the basics of that question down, there's one question I have: if I reference (or, for that matter, import) photos from iPhoto, does Aperture see the edits that have been done in iPhoto (cropping, saturation, etc), or are the files the "masters"?
Thanks!

When you edit a photo in iPhoto it makes a new file. You then have two files, the Original and the Modified version.
WHen you import an iPhoto Library, or drag an Event or photo over from the browser, Aperture brings over both versons and stacks them.
This is true regardless of whether you manage or reference the files in Aperture.
Regards
TD

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1. Import and deleting pics are more complex procedures
2. You cannot move or rename the files on your system or iPhoto will lose track of them on systems prior to 10.5 and iPhoto 08. Even with the later versions issues can still arise if you move the referenced files to new volumes or between volumes.
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