Do you think isdn and frame-relay expire?

in new ccnp book i didnt see any thing about isdn and some object
even in ccna exam i didnt see any question about isdn and if i remember about frame-relay
what's your opinion?do you think isdn and frame-relay expire?is there any place for this technology on it nowadays?
thanks

Hi Reza,
if you are talking about new CCNP curriculum, then ISDN and Frame relay technologies are no longer included there. ISDN and Frame relay were included in the Remote access paper of CCNP old curriculum but now that paper is replaced by Secure Converged Wide Area Networks paper which includes MPLS, IPSec VPNs and other technologies.
But as Rick said in earlier post that ISDN and frame relay are still very much in use.
hope it helps ... rate if it does ....

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Secondly i would like to connect my 2500 to the internet ...please put me through how.
Many thanks in Advance

Olu
There are some challenges in what you want to do with this equipment. If each router has 1 x ISDN interface then you can use that for ISDN - but you will need some other piece of equipment to furnish the ISDN switch functionality. You can not just connect 2 ISDN interfaces back to back.
You would be able to do some testing of Frame Relay if you connected the routers back to back - if one of the cables is a DCE cable and one cable is a DTE cable. The testing that you can do with 2 routers back to back is somewhat limited. You could do much better testing if you had a third router which could be configured as a frame relay switch.
Connecting your routers to the Internet will be possible if you connect one of the serial interfaces to an Internet Service provider.
The routers have token ring LAN interfaces. Unless you have some token ring MAUs to establish the connections you will not be able to do effective testing using the token ring LAN interfaces.
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Requirements:
1.Using only physical interfaces configure a Frame Relay hub-and-spoke network between RTA and RTB and RTC, RTB as the hub.
2.Traffic from RTA destined for RTC should transit RTB, and vice versa.
3.Use only the DLCIs specified in the diagram.
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5.Do not send any redundant broadcast traffic from the spokes to the hub.
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B- Doesnt he use keyword broadcast in these two statements (frame-relay map ip 3.1.1.3 22 and frame-relay map ip 3.1.1.1 33) because of requirement 5?
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E- By using these two statements (frame-relay map ip 3.1.1.3 22 and frame-relay map ip 3.1.1.1 33) doesnt my network become full mesh? but if you look to the diagram it is partial mesh ?

Answers to your queries:
A. Correct
B. Correct
C. That depends. In most cases, it is a good idea to have broadcasts on, especially when using routing protocols like OSPF which send traffic to multicast destinations. I would habe it on most times.
D. The recommendation from Cisco is not contradictory. The lab scenario is making you do something quite specific so you have to follow that. You don't always have to follow requirements in order to make things work.
E. No. Full-mesh refers to a full mesh of PVCs. If there was a PVC from A to C it would be full mesh.
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Sorry to ask very basic quiestion ..can some one tell what is the difrnce and advantage of MPLS over ATM and Frame-Relay ......pls provide me a better link ..for refrnce
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