DOC Splitting in New GL and Profit center accounting activation
Dear All,
I am in a dilemma regarding the following -
We are activating doc splitting with profit center and segment as characteristics.
1) While maintaining Controlling area settings(OKKP) - do we need to activate "Profit Center Accounting" component?
2) Similarly, in IMG-Controlling - Profit Center Accounting- Basic Settings-Controlling Area Settings-Maintain Controlling Area Settings (0ke5), do we need to maintain any settings?
I am of the opinion that ,based on the SAP Note - 826357, that we need not activate PC accounting as it is built into New GL Accounting.
I am also of the opinion, again based on the note, that we can use classic PC accounting, but the note recommends and I quote
we do not recommend you do this on a long-term basis due to the increased data volume and the increased time and effort required, and in the case of active document splitting, the update response changes.
But I am not able to come to a conclusion.
In earlier implementations, I activated PC accounting in OKK5 in New GL doc split scenario. So keeping that in mind, pl guide me.
Thanks & regards,
Gov
Hi
Please set the Profit Center Accounting with Controlling Area.
SPRO->CONTROLLING-->PROFIT CENTER ACCOUNTING -->CONTROLLING AREA SETTING -->MAINTAIN CONTROLLING AREA
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