Document size and final print size

I am beginning a new aerial drawing in Illustrator CS4 on an 2009 imac, to be printed at 40x40". If the document is sized at 40x40, the computer slows down as detail accumulates. Since Illustrator is a vector-based application, can the document size be set smaller than the final print size, say at 20x20" or 10x10", to keep file size down and speed faster, without losing print quality?
Thanks for any help!

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without losing print quality?
Depends on the specific content of the file and what exactly you mean by 'setting the document size smaller.'
Better would be to try to discern what is causing the performance issue. Again, that comes down to what the content is.
JET

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