Document versions making time machine have huge backups?

Time machine was working fine until i recently restored a backup last week. Afterwards i backed up everything but now i have noticed that every backup is over 800mb, for no reason. To test this, I backed up my mac, it was a 1.5GB backup, then 1 min later backed it up again and the backup was 1.3gb. So i downloaded time tracker, and found on several recent backups that there was this folder named .DocumentRevisions-V100 and it was in red. So i went to Time machine preferences and clicked options> exclude and went to Macintosh HD with show invisible folders ticked and excluded .Document Revisions folder. Just then i backed up my mac 7 times and all backups were 45 mb or less and everything now seems ok, but can you tell me any possible consequences of excluding this file form backup and why it was creating such huge files anyway? and what should i do about it?

It's possible the document revisions is corrupt. The way it is organized, it should only backup what changed. Sounds like it was backing up the whole folder.
If you exclude it, you won't be able to use Time Machine to restore previous internal revisions. You could still go back and grab previous saved versions. You just wouldn't be able to use the Versions feature to grab portions of a previous revision and insert it into the current version.

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