Does 1 big image = slower performance, even if only 10% of it is drawn?
Hey, I want to make a tile based game, but I was wondering... If I created a large image thats bigger than the game window based on the tile data, would it be slow to draw this image in the window, even if only %25 of the image is ever seen due to the smaller size of the window? (Is it automaticaly clipped?)
Or is it better to just draw the current viewable tiles over and over instead of creating one large image?
In case your wondering, this is for a RTS game, that will involve the world map being scrollable.
In a nutshell, yes.
As you have written it, Java will load the entire image into memory and treat the resulting block of memory as one "continous block" as far as operations go. If you decided to clip 25% of the image, you will have to write a routine that determines the boundaries of the visible region, and Java then will have to determine the memory addresses of that region and copy the relevant details to the buffer. In other words, you still have to calculate what region to display.
(I'm glossing over the details, I just want to give you enough background so that you can make an informed decision based on your needs.)
Java does automatically clip if you tell it to draw two overlapping regions but you still have to specify which region has priority.
The alternative is to break the image down into tiles. Each tile likewise takes up a chunk of memory but you can eliminate all redundant tiles. That is, if you want to show a 5x5 square of grass, you can instruct the game to draw the 1x1 square of grass 25 times as opposed to the one 5x5 tile, and the smaller tile takes up less memory. More importantly, you can choose to update only the relevant tiles as the player travels across the map. I.e., player moves left. Draw new tile in spot player just vacated. Leave rest of map untouched.
So to answer your question, which approach is better depends on exactly what you want to do and what your hardware constraints are. Some people would even suggest mixing and matching, using the clipping feature to draw the player tile on top of the visible portion of the map.
A hint: decide whether you want the player to remain stationary while the world scrolls underneath him (use tiles) or if you want the player to move around while the world stays stationary (use large image).
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Installed TWAIN devices: NONEGreat news!
I followed your suggestion, Noel, and uninstalled my drivers with the Catalyst Uninstall Utility (which I hadn't used before), rebooted, reinstalled Catalyst 13.2 Beta 7, rebooted, deleted the PS Prefs, started PS, and now the performance is radically improved!
It baffles me why I would need to do a clean driver uninstall in a new system environment that has only ever had this video card, and is only a few months old, but that action seems to be what's improved the situation. Note that because I deleted the PS preferences, the good performance now occurs with the default Use Graphics Processor enabled, and Drawing Mode set to Advanced (with every feature in the Advanced dialog checked except 30bit display).
Having no reference point, I can't tell for sure if performance is as good as it theoretically ought to be for my system specs, but using the standard 13px brush is only slightly laggy behind the cursor, even if I become reckless and squiggle on the canvas violently. It wasn't just sluggish response before: Photoshop seemed to be in pain trying to draw the line segments as it laboured to catch up to the cursor. That is pretty much gone now.
Much more tellingly, zooming and panning the canvas is like it ought to be, responsive and clean, more or less like it was for me in CS4 with my old Nvidia 9600GT. The poor performance with zooming and panning was the most worrying aspect of the issue. It's a great relief to see these working more properly now.
I have to confess I'm a little embarrassed to have drug you through all this hassle only to discover that something as rudimentary as properly cleaning out the drivers would be the apparent solution. I never would have imagined that doing that, with such a new and stable system, would make any difference, since I don't have a legacy of older drivers dotting my hard drive. In any event, I'm really grateful that you guys took the time to try to help me.
In the interest of completeness, here's the relevant portion of my system info after doing the reinstall steps I mentioned above:
Adobe Photoshop Version: 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00) x64
Operating System: Windows 8 64-bit
Version: 6.2
System architecture: Intel CPU Family:6, Model:14, Stepping:5 with MMX, SSE Integer, SSE FP, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2
Physical processor count: 4
Processor speed: 2665 MHz
Built-in memory: 16379 MB
Free memory: 13680 MB
Memory available to Photoshop: 14695 MB
Memory used by Photoshop: 60 %
Image tile size: 1024K
Image cache levels: 4
OpenGL Drawing: Enabled.
OpenGL Drawing Mode: Advanced
OpenGL Allow Normal Mode: True.
OpenGL Allow Advanced Mode: True.
OpenGL Allow Old GPUs: Not Detected.
OpenCL Version: 3.0
OpenGL Version: 3.0
Video Rect Texture Size: 16384
OpenGL Memory: 2048 MB
Video Card Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
Video Card Renderer: AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series
Display: 1
Display Bounds: top=0, left=0, bottom=1080, right=1920
Video Card Number: 2
Video Card: AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series
Driver Version:
Driver Date:
Video Card Driver: aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.d ll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Video Mode: 1920 x 1080 x 4294967296 colors
Video Card Caption: AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series
Video Card Memory: 2048 MB
Video Card Number: 1
Video Card: Microsoft Basic Render Driver
Driver Version: 12.100.17.0
Driver Date: 20130226000000.000000-000
Video Card Driver:
Video Mode:
Video Card Caption: Microsoft Basic Render Driver
Video Card Memory: 0 MB
As you can see, the Microsoft Basic Render Driver still appears as a Video Card in the list. This presumably has something to do with Windows 8, and I really don't know if its presence here is still a sign that my card is not being used to its optimal capability. I have a hunch that the slight lag that I am still experiencing with the brush when Use Graphics Processor is on -- totally absent with the acceleration turned off -- implies that Photoshop is still unable to take maximum advantage of my card. I would assume that the brush tool should be more responsive with acceleration on than off, in a rig without any issues, but that's just assumption on my part. If you turn off Use Graphics Processor on your systems, is the brush tool more or less responsive?
But again, panning the canvas with the hand tool is now extremely responsive, without any screen tearing or visible lag, and that's a massive improvement over the total meltdown of performance I was suffering from before.
Thanks again very much for your help. I'm grateful to all of you who took the time to chime in. -
Slow Performance Over time, Drawing Access Forms
we've been using a small access database for almost a year now, written from scratch using only Access 2013
over time drawing of one of the forms slows right down, once the form is draw its fine, but if you switch to a different form at the top then switch back it draws slow, maybe 7-8 seconds compared to the usual 1 second, sometimes it can work all day no problem,
sometimes after an hour it starts drawing the form slow, the only way to cure it is to restart the machine.
Logging off and logging back on doesn't cure it, only restarting it, it does get restarted every night automatically as an attempt to help the problem
this happens on 2 machines, both have intel HD graphics, (previously one was using a NVidia GT 250 which had appalling performance in design mode (even with hardware acceleration disabled) so we switched to the on-board, although this issue happens
with both machines)
Back end gets compacted/and repaired every night on a schedule as I did notice a big slow down if you let that go a couple of weeks, I've decompiled/recompiled the front end, short of re-writing the form I'm not sure what to do, it does have a lot of controls,
around 30 textboxes 1 combo box + 20 or so labels and 4 buttons, one embedded report, it only happens on this one form, I have embedded reports in other forms which don't have the same issue and have the same number of controls.
I'm a bit of a loss, its not a huge issue, but just an annoyance, when I get time I'm tempted to try recreating the form from scratch, but there is a lot of VBA code behind it, before trying that just wondering if there are any suggestions to improve performance?
*edit* the form is loaded from a list of customers, so it gets opened closed a lot, I thought simply hiding the form instead of loading/unloading all the time would speed it up, it does slightly improve the speed after viewing the second lot of details,
however it suffers the safe fate of slowing down over time, it seems to be only drawing the form and not accessing the dbI think you would benefit from a code review by a strong Access developer. What you are describing is not normal and may be caused by systematic programming choices.
-Tom. Microsoft Access MVP
Just wondering, once this does happen going into design mode on any form is slow to draw, but only the one form at runtime once it starts happening.
the only visible difference apart from waiting is seeing the 'property sheet' on the right hand side gets visibly drawn left to right on any form once this happens, switch back to form view you see it get wiped out slowly, fade from left to right as it blanks
the form out
I had this 'slow' behaviour constantly with the NVidia card in one of our machines, even on new blank databases.
I'm not even sure if this is linked to the form I've made or not, its just the only reason I notice it is that it's frustrating to use.
Is this code review idea something that people volunteer to check or is it a paid service?
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