Does Leopard Installation over Tiger = slower comp? also, audio Question

I need a laptop for college this fall. and im up in the air between Macbook and the HP DV2500t
Sadly, it looks like if i go with Mac, ill have to shell out another 130 just 2 months into having the computer, which leads to my main question.
Will installing OSX10.5 on a Macbook that (HOPEFULLY) has a spankin new Santa Rosa chip make the comp any slower in the long run?
is there anything I can do to avoid the slowdown? or will it run like new?
ALSO!
As i new musician who records ideas nightly, I use an external mic with a 1/4 to 1/8 converter so i can put it into the Mic Jac in the back of my PC...
I saw that Macbook only has a headphone and Line in jac. Can i plug my enternal mic on?
THANKS!

i dont follow with the pre amp... the volume might
not be up to par?
some microphone only transmit weak signal that need to be amplified by a pre-amp, but if your mike produced strong signal, then you don't need a pre-amp.
also... whats the deal with 'it runs on a white
macbook'.. what does the color have to do with the
OS...
is it in qestion whether or not Leopard will run
right?
Because the demo shows it run on white macbook, that is mean that today macbook will run 10.5.x, either black or white.
Also, just as Mac users... why would apple hold back
from Santa Rosa... HP had them in all new laptops in
the 2nd week of may...
That is their decision and we are not allowed to discuss it here based on the user term and agreement that we must agreed before posting any thread.
Good Luck.

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ebdb wrote:
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1 Stuff happens
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It sounds like you have very very limited RAM and very limited free hard disk space.
The lack of RAM causes the OS to attempt to buffer information to hard disk. The lack of hard disk space causes everything to become 'slower than molasses' as the system tries to find free space available on the hard disk.
I'm wondering if you read the installation requirements before you installed Snow Leopard?
Snow Leopard minimum requirements are 1Gb RAM (but note that MORE is recommended) and 5-7Gb available hard disk space, just to install it.
http://manuals.info.apple.com/enUS/Snow_Leopard_InstallationInstructions.pdf
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I read a lot of discussion but I didn't find the same problem.
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I have the 10.5.8 version installed, and I want to erase the disk and do a re-install of 10.5 because I've got some bugs :
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- it bugs when I suspend the activity (black screen, nothing works... I have to push the "ON" button a longtime to stop the mac, )
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The problem is that my MBP don't read the installation DVD (leopard or even Tiger).
It reads the DVD, I heard that the DVD turns, but after 3/4 try, the MBP ejects the DVD.
But It reads Blank CD, DVD (many zone)... Only the installation DVD is not reading.
I've already try :
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- to push "C" key" at the restart (it's not ok, the MBP eject before blue screen.. it seems that the MBP is waiting to eject the install DVD to start)
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So, Is there a solution ? If the Mac can read sometimes CD or movie DVD, that mean that the otpical drive isn't broken...
I'm waiting your help
(sorry if there's some english mistakes !)

So, I've tried to start in target disc mod with a firewire.... Not lucky, I can read in the "information System" that my firewire is not recognized. It's weird because I can charge my ipod with firewire, but the target mode doesn't work !!!
message in french :
Bus FireWire :
Attention : Impossible de répertorier les périphériques FireWire.
(average Translate = impossible to index firewire's peripherals)
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Malcolm,
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I installed Leopard on a new 400GB WD SATAII HD last night.
First I used Tiget to format the drive HFS+ Journaled and then I started the install. Leopard took about 15 mins. checking theintegrity of the installation DVD and then about 30 mins. to complete the installation. The program re-booted afted taking a few mins. to clean the boot cache.
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Loaded iLife 08... also without much of a hitch. Repaired permissions after all of this and got one user permission that needed to be repaired and this one linethat will not go away no matter how many times permission repair is run:
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this seems to reference remote access that says has been changed bit will ot need repair...
All-in-all a good experience. I look forward to learning what's under the hood.

From what I understand, there is a definite difference although I do not know what it is. So I don't really know about what the upgrade disc does. But I am surprised it gave you no options. Did it have anything you could print out like the "Mac OS X v. 10.5 Leopard Installation and Setup Guide" that comes with the full retail version?
As for doing an erase and custom install with the full retail version, yes you can do that. My MBP came with Tiger and I later installed Leopard with an erase and install and left out all the printer drivers and languages I would never use. I then had to reinstall iLife 08 and the other bundled applications from the Tiger install discs.
The real problem is that your friend needs her own set of discs for troubleshooting etc. I don't know if it's permissible for you to make her a copy of the Leopard Retail disc, but maybe you could since you did buy the family pack.
There should be some way to do what you want with her discs--it may be worth printing out whatever information there is and reading it closely and see if something is possible. I do know that the "options" box on my copy of Leopard was so subtle that I missed it the first time. It appears on the "select a destination" page in the lower left corner.
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