Does Lightroom read white balance settings in NEF files?

I have noticed an interesting difference in white balance color temp using Lightroom vs. Capture NX: In a Nikon D70 RAW shot (with camera white balance set at Direct Sunlight, no fine-tuning) Lightroom shows the "as shot" color temp to be 4850K. Capture NX reads the as shot color temp to be 5200. If Lightroom is reading the NEF w.b. settings, why isn't it reading the K temp as 5200?

Fred Felder:
I still have not been able to find the original post (the links I tried to follow appear to be broken) by Thomas Knoll but I found another message which contains the relevant quote:
Ramón G Castañeda, "D200 White Balance Issue" #13, 30 Aug 2006 3:52 am
which says...
>Thomas Knoll - 10:47am Sep 25, 05 PST (#1 of 101) Edited: 25-Sep-2005 at 12:57pm
>This is the normal and expected result of Adobe Camera Raw and Nikon using different camera profiles and algorithms, and is not a bug.
>Because of the different camera profiles being used, when matching white balance values Camera Raw can either match the white balance appearance (which colors are exactly neutral) or the white balance numbers (exact Kelvin/Tint numbers). In these cases, Camera Raw chose to match the appearance, not the numbers.
>Even if the white balance matches, I don't expect an exact overall appearance match since Camera Raw and Nikon software use a different tone curve and rendering algorithms for non-neutral colors.

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In any case, I'm worried about the discrepancy
between Aperture and Camera Raw on something so
basic.
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