Does Make To Order planning consider any SNP/PPDS Horizons
Guys
Does Make To Order planning consider any SNP/PPDS Horizons unike the Make to Stock scenario planning?
Thanks
Thanks for the response guys.
In RRP3 view, when I look at the Individual project segment demand, I do not see any SNP/PPDS Horizons. However, when I see the demands under the MTS segment, I can see the SNP/PPDS Horizons.
In MTS scenario, I understand that only those orders that falls within PPDS horizon are picked up by PPDS planning and orders outisde SNP horizon are picked up by SNP planning.
However, as MTO is purely PPDS planning, I am just wondering whether SNP or PPDS horizon comes into the picture in this scenario or not.
Further more, my primary concern in MTO scenario is, if PPDS horizon is taken into the picture ( which is usually in the near visible term and < SNP horizon, say 15 days), and as PPDS planning doesn't pick the demand in the MTO segment until the demand falls with in this horizon, aren't we not leveraging the full functionality of procurement planning, as PPDS plans the demand by picking it just before 15 days (in this example) of the original requirement date, and the company might not be able to fulfil the customer order as the replenishment time might be long for this particular product being procured/produced.
So, I am basically leaning towards an understanding that what ever demand that falls in the Individual Customer/Project segment (MTO), it will be picked up PPDS planning regard less of SNP/PPDS horizons.
Please advice, if my understanding is wrong and I would appreciate if you quote some examples which might help me better understand the scenario.
Thanks
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i am doing make to order scenario with 20 strategy group. In sales order we r defining the different delivery schedule lines.when i run the MRP and getting the plan orders for all the FG material and semifinished material, the sale order number and sale order item number is getting updated in production order . Beside these two , delivery schedule line number is not populated and delivery date is not picking correctly in production order.
please give your valuable suggestion .
i would be highly thankful to u
regards
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i have checked MD04 peg requirement list with order route.
every thing is ok.,schedule number is also coming but only for finished good . if three production order is there for semifinished then there is no any relation that how i can judge that this semifinished is for which FG material.means :
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sreehi,
Yes,
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Hi Everyone,
I want someone who really understands Remaining Order Plan to validate if my understanding of it is correct or not. If it is not correct, I would like someone to explain it. I am not finding satisfactory answers from any SAP PS consultant yet, on Remaining Order Plan. Whenever, I ask this question, they say, they will get back with the answer and the next thing you know is that they have disappeared into Aladdin's Magic Lamp.
I understand that,
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So, Now during (REL Status), i.e., Released Status, the formula for Assigned would look like this.
Assigned = Actual Costs + Commitments + Remaining Ord Plan.
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In the Released Status, if Actual Costs = 0 &
Commitment = 0 &
then,
Assigned = 0 + 0 + RemOrdPlan.
==> RemOrdPlan = Plan Costs
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Suppose, Actual + Commitment = Planned Costs, at some stage in the project, It means, we havae reached the threshold value of the Planned Costs, and the combination of both Actual + Commitment, can cross the planned costs. ( not in all cases, but maybe in some cases, as no one can plan a project ideally anyhow ).
Once the threshold value of Planned Costs has reached, it would mean that RemOrdPlan is completely apportioned appropriately to both Actual and Commitment Columns. Hence, the Assigned column would look like this...
Assigned = Actual ( % of Rem Ord Plan) + Commitment ( Remaining % of Rem Ord Plan ) + 0.
Here, 0 means, zero value in Remaining Order Plan, as it has distributed its values to Actual and Commitment in a certain percentage depending on how the project was executed.
Now, During one of the projects, I have noticed that,
if Planned costs was 100,000 during CRTD stage, they were distributed, in a certain percentage like say,
10 % to Actual & 25% to Commitment. Hence, 65 % is still left with RemOrdPlan Column.
Hence , Assigned = 100%,
The problem is that, When you see, the System status, it shows, ISBD, Insufficient Budgeting, even if there is the same 65% amount available in the RemOrdPlan column. My argument, is that, when RemOrdPlan is something still consumable, how can the system show insufficient budgeting, ISBD status, when there is still 65% in Rem Ord Plan, and that same amount available in WBS element, (via budgeting transactions).
Moreover, the Available Column should show the same amount as RemOrdPlan, that is 65% of the amount, but it does not. Because, in reality, RemOrdPlan is what is available, and still left to be consumed, until it becomes zero. I think, this concept is confusing all the project engineers who are SAP PS, users.
Please, can anyone throw more light on the above arguments.
Regards,
Owais.....Dear Owais,
Let me try to explain my understanding about availability control and residual order plan =) hope it'll help
The problem is that, When you see, the System status, it shows, ISBD, Insufficient Budgeting, even if there is the same 65% amount available in the RemOrdPlan column. My argument, is that, when RemOrdPlan is something still consumable, how can the system show insufficient budgeting, ISBD status, when there is still 65% in Rem Ord Plan, and that same amount available in WBS element, (via budgeting transactions).
Status ISBD is set for any activity which is relevant for availability control which increase the assigned value not actual value.
If you include the activity group 02 (Orders for project) in your availability control setting then any increase you make in order plan value will trigger the availability control ergo it will set the ISBD status if the value exceeds the tolerance limit even it's still a plan value, not an actual value yet
Moreover, the Available Column should show the same amount as RemOrdPlan, that is 65% of the amount, but it does not. Because, in reality, RemOrdPlan is what is available, and still left to be consumed, until it becomes zero. I think, this concept is confusing all the project engineers who are SAP PS, users.
IMO, if the system shows the 65% of the amount in Available column, user will assume that that amount is free to use while in fact the value is already 'reserved' only for material/activity which has been planned, user can't post any cost outside what has been planned
Please correct me if I'm wrong =)
Regards,
-K-
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Delivery schedule line number in make to order
Hi all,
i am doing make to order scenario with 20 strategy group. In sales order we r defining the different delivery schedule lines.when i run the MRP and getting the plan orders for all the FG material and semifinished material, the sale order number and sale order item number is getting updated in production order . Beside these two , delivery schedule line number is not populated and delivery date is not picking correctly in production order.
please give your valuable suggestion .
i would be highly thankful to u
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Hi all,
i am doing make to order scenario with 20 strategy group. In sales order we r defining the different delivery schedule lines.when i run the MRP and getting the plan orders for all the FG material and semifinished material, the sale order number and sale order item number is getting updated in production order . Beside these two , delivery schedule line number is not populated and delivery date is not picking correctly in production order.
please give your valuable suggestion .
i would be highly thankful to u
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piyushHi
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reward if it helps
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fert - material master - Mrp 2 view procurement type-F and spl procurement - 30
components - Mrp 4 view - ind/coll requirement- 2
I want system has to consider subcontracting stock of components while MRP run????
thanks in advanceDear,
Special stocks are not considered for MRP run. Subcontracting stock is a special stock (O), hence is not considered for MRP.
You need to define MRP area for vendor subcontracting. then run MRP for this MRP area it will work for you.
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Re: to consider subcontract stock during mrp run
Re: MRP with subcontractor stock
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Re Sales order stock in make-to-order scenario
Hi
While doing make-to-order scenario after doing production order confirmation for the raw material the reserved stock is reduced but sales order stock is not reduced. how to solve this.
Thanks
AntonyDear,
If you are using strategy 20 then please note,
You also must maintain the following master data settings for the finished product:
Strategy group 20 on the MRP screen
Item category group (such as NORM) on the Sales Organization screen
Sales Order -> MRP -> Customer Stock Finished Product -> Delivery -
+
^ |
| | -- Reduction--
Goods Issue for Delivery and Reduction of Planned Independent Requirements
After goods issue for the delivery (choose Logistics -- Sales and distribution -- Shipping --Delivery --Create), the stock/requirements list is reset
Regards,
R.Brahmankar
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