Does Oracle BPM Suite has an inbuild process for Work Flow Mgmt ?

HI,
There is an workflow tool in the market known as STAFFWARE. IS oracle BPM Suite has this capability of workflow mgmt. So, is the BPM suite able to replace the Staffware S/W ?

Hi Dhawal,
If you are refereing to actual implementation of a modelled workflow or process, the short answer is yes. See for example [http://www.oracle.com/technologies/soa/oracle-bpa-suite-datasheet.pdf].
Best,
Mathias

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I am very confusing about the "Oracle BPM suite 11g" and "Oracle SOA Suite 11g" and would like your help on explanation as the following :
I have learn that In order to use "Oracle BPM Suite 11g" require to have "Oracle SOA Suite 11g" components to install first. Does it means that :
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This is a question best answered by your Oracle reseller or Oracle account manager to give you all the details but I hope this brief answer helps:
- The Unified Business Process Management Suite (BPM Suite 11g) includes: BPM Studio, BPM Composer, BPMN Service Engine and Workflow Extensions, BPM Process Spaces, and BPM Process Analytics.
- BPM Suite 11g requires the licensing of SOA Suite 11g for Oracle Middleware which requires a license for WebLogic Suite.
- You can license SOA Suite 11g now and license BPM Suite 11g later.
Since the products are layered, I don't see this cutting into SOA sales at all. My personal view is that BPM on top of SOA is brilliant since it provides easy integration between human and automated tasks, builds on many of the SOA concepts that are key for a successful BPM implementation (functional, not the Oracle product), and uses the same IDE. The synergies extend past easy use of services; the same business rules and human workflow components are used between both products.

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Do Oracle Bpm Suite 11g human tasks have concept of advanced routing of tasks ? For example if we have three groups of people, each of these groups have skills defined. And when task is created then the skills required fulfill the task (could be defined in task metadata) is compared against the three groups. The task is then assigned to the work queue of the most fitting group ?
So what I mean by this, is that you can specify rules which define which work queue (and multiple user can be assigned to the work queue) receives which tasks ?
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I am new in Oracle BPM and how some experience learning how to use Oracle BPM. Now when reading about the components products inside "Oracle BPM Suite" in detail , I am some what confuse about :
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