Does PPRO CS3 support Variable Frame Rates on P2?

If not, how is it converted to edit?
KMS

Weird, I have some VFR clips that will not import into PPRO. All other clips that are ot VFR import just fine. I get an error message from PPRO on the VFR clips saying that the file format is not supported or the file is damaged.
KMS

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