Does the Airport Extreme work w/Time Capsule (as prior info. said?)

Seems to me that any person contemplating the purchase of a new Airport Extreme should at least be able to see both what it is and is not capable of doing... Time Machine does not support a properly mounted Airport Extreme disk. Period. Unless this is the darker side of the product-- or lest this technical incompatibility is found to be "inappropriate" subject matter, I see no reason why this is not a valid technical question to be answered by Apple.
Why does the AE not fully support the feature-set of Leopard? Time Machine incompatibility is a serious and costly issue for all of us who bought AE's just weeks prior to Leopard's release...
Apple did indeed state (prior to release), that Leopard and Time Machine would fully support the Airport Extreme's disk-mounting feature. This is no longer the case, however, and it seems that Apple simply does not want this subject to be brought to light... This is a technical problem that can (and should) be solved via new software for the AE, or within Leopard itself.
I have been told to "call Customer Relations about this instead"-- however, no phone number was provided. In my experience, that department has proven to be incredibly difficult to connect with via Tech. Support. Why can't this issue be addressed here? Technical. Software. Hardware. Leopard.

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Just because this issue can't be solved, does not justify pulling the post from this forum-- as this information is vital to absolutely anyone who is contemplating the purchase of an Airport Extreme.
Actually it does. If you rant about a feature missing or spam the forum (which you did both) it will be removed. Read the Terms of Use you agreed to when you signed up:
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This is a technical incompatibility, and as such, has a valid place in this forum.
Not really. Its a missing feature, not an incompatibility. Incompatibilities are things that a product should be able to do but can not due to conflicts. The AEBS was never compatible with the retail version of Time Machine, nor was it every said to be compatible with the retail version so its is a missing feature.
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I have an external hard drive attached to my airport extreme that shows up on my desktop as if it was attached locally, but time machine recognizes it as the wrong format. In the Get Info screen, the drive's format appears to be 'Appleshare', when it is actually Mac OS Extended (Journaled). How can I make it appear as Mac OS extended again?

There is nothing wrong. The drive will appear as Appleshare since the AirPort Extreme base station (AEBS) is providing file sharing services. That should not be a problem for Time Machine use.

Using an Airport Extreme and a Time Capsule at the same time

Guys I have had an Airport Extreme and a Time Capsule running together for nearly a year now and over the last few days the TC has been behaving badly. I changed its settings and now I'm in a mess. No, I can't remember the previous settings
Does anyone have a definitive list of the settings I need please? I have an ethernet cable modem, and the Airport Extreme is plugged into that as the main router. Two computers and the Time Capsule are plugged into the Airport Extreme using ethernet. The Time Capsule at the moment is just used as a network drive for Time Machine, but at some point I want to move it, with a long ethernet cable, and use it for extending the wifi in the house.
1. Should I connect the TC using its WAN port or one of the other ethernet ports? At present it's one of the other ones.
2. What TC settings should I use to have it function purely as a hard drive? At the moment there's some kind of conflict and my internet connection drops every 30 minutes.
3. Then later, what settings will I need to get the ethernet connected TC to extend the range of my wifi?
I read the Apple doc about WDS and tried setting the TC up that way. Then I discovered there is no WDS option in the AE Wireless settings. Only "Create a wireless network" or "extend a wireless network". The same setting on the TC has these options: "Create a wireless network" "Participate in a WDS network" or "extend a wireless network". Both devices have firmware 7.5.2. It didn't work with only the TC set for WDS, of course, but after that I can't get it back the way it was - which wasn't reliable anyway
Any help in exactly what the Wireless and Internet settings should be would be massively useful. Thanks!

If you use the extreme as a router then the tc should be connected via its wan port to one of the lan ports on the extreme. Tc should be set up in bridge mode. Basically you could set it up to create another wireless network beside the one created by the extreme. There is no need to use WDS or extend the other network.
Use the same SSID and password for both machines. Computers will connect to the strongest signal.

What is the best way to hookup my airport extreme with my time capsule ?

what is the best way to hookup my airport extreme with my time capsule ?

It sounds like you have the AirPort Extreme configured as the "main" router on your network.
If that is the case, connect an Ethernet cable from one of the LAN <-> ports on the AirPort Extreme to the WAN "O" port on the Time Capsule
Power up the Time Capsule
Connect another spare Ethernet cable from your Mac to one of the LAN <-> ports on the Time Capsule
Open Macintosh HD > Applications > Utilities > AirPort Utility
Click on the Time Capsule, then click Manual Setup
Click the Wireless tab below the row of icons and make sure that the setting for Wireless Mode = Off
Click the Internet icon, the click the Internet tab
Insure that the setting for Connect Using = Ethernet
Insure that the setting for Connection Sharing = Off (Bridge Mode)
Click the Update button at the lower right of the window and wait a full minute for the Time Capsule to restart
Then power cycle the entire network by powering everything off....order of power down does not matter
Wait a minute
Power up the modem first, and let it run a few minutes by itself
Power up the AirPort Extreme next and let it run a full minute
Power up the Time Capsule next and let it run a full minute
Keep starting devices one at a time about a minute apart until the entire network is back up
You will need to reset the backup path from your Mac to the Time Capsule to get backups going again
Open System Preference (gear icon on the dock)
Open Time Machine
Click Select Disk
Click the Time Capsule to highlight it
Click Use for Backups or Use Disk and backups should begin again in a few minutes
If you do not want to leave the Mac connected to the Time Capsule by Ethernet, remove the Ethernet cable from the Mac to the Time Capsule, then log on to the AirPort Extreme wireless network

If I have an airport extreme and a time capsule is it possible for seamless switching between the 2 when a signal is weak or drops Main reason is as I move from my first floor to my attic office and would like to place one (airport extreme)downstairs and

If I have an airport extreme and a time capsule is it possible for seamless switching between the 2 when a signal is weak or drops
Main reason is as I move from my first floor to my attic office and would like to place one (airport extreme)downstairs and time capsule upstairs to get complete coverage

In theory, yes. If you configure the two base station into either an extended or roaming network configuration, you should be able to walk a laptop between routers and the laptop should attempt to connect/reconnect to the base station providing the stronger signal ... but, in reality, this is not always 100% true.

Airport Extreme and a Time Capsule - config recommendations?

Hi!
So I find myself (in a fortunate position?!) with a new Airport Extreme and a Time Capsule.
I have very few requirements - I would like to be able to connect to the Internet wirelessly, and I'd like to be able to backup a couple of Macs using Time Machine (also wirelessly). I realise that the TC can provide me with that functionality nice and easily, but since I have an AE and a TC, I figure it would be good to make use of both, and so I wanted to ask if anyone had any recommendations for a useful configuration?
I think there are 2 basic options I could make use of (have I missed any?!):
1) Use AE as base station and connect the TC to it as an external HD
2) Use AE as base station and also make TC available for back up wirelessly
Does anyone have any thoughts on the above? If you'd recommend 2), what would be your suggested approach as I think I'm right in saying that 2) could be done in several ways? Roaming? WDS? Just setup TC as a stand-alone wireless box with no internet connection? (does this latter approach mean I could connect to the internet and backup at the same time - I'm guessing not?)
If 1) is the way to go, is it just a case of putting an ethernet cable between the 2 boxes?
Any thoughts would be hugely appreciated!
Many thanks

I would use the Time Capsule as the wireless base station connected to the modem. Then I'd use the Airport Extreme to extend the network or to create a roaming network (ethernet cable betwee the units), whichever worked best in the premises. Naturally, Time Capsule would be used for backups of all machines equipped with Time Machine. Have never hooked up any Apple equipment but from my understanding of it, this is what I'd try.

Internet - AirPort Extreme (b/g) - Time Capsule - File Server

I've got a small office network where files are served off a Mac mini, and iMacs connected via 802.11n wifi to the wired mini via Time Capsule. I have a spare AEBS (b/g) that I was thinking of setting it up for iPhone and guest access of internet. To keep the mini and iMacs secure, the set-up would be:
Internet -> AirPort Extreme (b/g) -> Time Capsule -> Mac mini and iMacs
The only issue I'm contemplating - the slower Ethernet ports on the Extreme - which I don't think is a problem for connecting to the Internet. Is there anything else I should be concerned about regarding network performance?
Thanks in advance for the collective wisdom!
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That would work. The Ethernet ports on the AirPort Extreme base station (AEBS) is faster than your internet connection so you shouldn't have a problem.

Can the AirPort Extreme work as an extender?

Simple question: Can the AirPort Extreme work as a wireless network extender? (I have tried to research this online, of course, but I haven't had much luck.)
Background: The only option from our ISP is a router/modem combination. It used to be plugged directly into my dad's (Dell and Windows) desktop computer, but I was having trouble connecting all my devices wirelessly. So, I moved it into the kitchen and plugged it into the phone line (we have AT&T DSL) and got a USB wireless adapter for my dad's computer (because he didn't think he needed the wireless option on his "fancy" new Dell). I also have a different brand of adapter plugged into my old iMac G3, which I LOVE using.
Since doing this, my dad has constantly complained of his Internet not working correctly, things loading slowly, and having trouble connecting at all. (Full disclosure: he STILL uses the complete desktop version of AOL and refuses to give it up.) However, I've had no trouble on ANY of my devices--the G3, my white MacBook, my iPad, my iPod, or my mom's Kindle Fire. This leads me to believe the problem lies in the fact that he's using AOL because I usually don't have trouble when I briefly use Chrome on his desktop.
I've tried finding different solutions, including flashing an old router to use an extender and researching different extenders and bridges and such, but nothing looks like a viable solution because of all our components.
I'm wondering if the AirPort Extreme (probably the A1143;or any of the other AirPort devices) can work as an extender. To appease my dad, it'd be best to take the modem/router back to his man cave so he can hook it back up to his computer, but I'm not sure if the AirPort can pick up the wireless signal and perhaps be plugged directly into my G3 and otherwise act as an extender for my other devices (while searching for an Internet solution for my G3, I read on here that someone did this, but there was no further information on how it worked) or if I can plug it into the kitchen phone line and keep the USB adapter for the G3 and have wireless access to all my other things.
Help?
(I can't find the original support article where a responder mentioned using the AirPort station with an iMac G3, but i did locate this one: https://discussions.apple.com/message/13080786#13080786)
(My iMac is one of the later ones. It's running 10.4.1 and is a 600MHz model.)

Simple question: Can the AirPort Extreme work as a wireless network extender?
Simple answer: Yes....IF....the AirPort Extreme is extending a wireless network that is being provided by another Apple 802.11n wireless router.
Another way of saying the same thing is that it will take a minimum of two Apple 802.11n wireless routers to extend a signal wirelessly.
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Does the Airport Extreme support HP cp1025? There are two versions of the printer the cp1025 and cp1025nw. I have the cp1025, and can't set it up. Is there a list of AE/bonjour supported printers?

Does the Airport Extreme support HP cp1025? There are two versions of the printer the cp1025 and cp1025nw. I have the cp1025, and can't set it up.
Is there a list of AE/bonjour supported printers?

Bonjour is a transport protocol. It also provides a means of advertising a printer on a network.
Any list that shows printers that support Bonjour is generally an indication that the printer itself supports this protocol, meaning that when it is connected to the network, you can see it in your default Add Printer browser. In the case of the Airport, it also supports the Bonjour protocol and will advertise any printer that is connected to its USB port. The printer itself does not have to support Bonjour. The Airport performs this function. And like many lists, they are not kept up to date because each vendor releases several new models every quarter or half year.
There are definitely printers that don't work when connected to the USB port of the Airport. And this is more that the printer driver does not support this type of connection, mainly due to the port not supporting bidirectional communications which some printer drivers require. The Canon UFR2 and CAPT drivers are a good example of this limitation. But this is only the Mac drivers. The Windows equivalent drivers work fine when the printer is connected to the USB port.
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Now that you seen how it should work based on when you used the C3188, if you still get that error message at point 6 of adding the C1025 then it would suggest a driver compatibility issue with the Airport - which is not necessarily a Bonjour compatibility issue. So unless there was another model of HP printer driver that you could use to this C1025 and that was also compatible with the USB port of the Airport Extreme, then I would suggest your best action is to replace the printer with a model that does work. Maybe even one that has builtin wireless so you don't have to use the USB port of the Airport.

Does Apple Airport Extreme work on 220 as well as 110 volts?

Does Apple Airport Extreme work on 220 as well as 110 volts?

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Will the airport extreme work with Iphone 4 and Ipod 3 gen without a pc or mac.

will the airport extreme work with Iphone 4 and Ipod 3 gen without a pc or mac.

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Download it for free in the App Store on your iPhone...
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Does the Airport extreme provide any sort of usage reporting? Either per user or aggregate usage of the broadband port

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Good day everyone. I recently upgraded my airport extreme network by replacing the base station with a time capsule router. Since I now have an "extra" airport extreme router, I've set it up on the other side of the house to both extend the wireless range as well as use it's LAN ports for a home theater system in that location. Connecting the two routers was done via ethernet. It now appears that I need to do something "else" as the LAN ports on the now relocated airport extreme are nonfunctional. All devices are operating well for wireless and as a review, the modem is connected to the time capsule WAN which is connected to the airport extreme via ethernet cable via LAN to it's WAN port. What do I need to change on configurations to get the LAN ports functioning on the airport extreme? Thank you for any help.

Connecting the two routers was done via ethernet. It now appears that I need to do something "else" as the LAN ports on the now relocated airport extreme are nonfunctional.
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Does the Airport Extreme work w/Time Capsule (as prior info. said?)

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