Does the new MBP run hot?

I'm looking to buy the new MBP 15". Does anyone know if it runs hot? My current white polycarbonate first generation Intel Macbook always runs ridiculously hot.
Thanks!

Picked up a new 15" very recently. Subjective heat evaluation:
9400M: Very cool during general use (web browsing/email/etc...) Warm during gaming (WoW).
9600M GT: Warm during general use. Hot during gaming. VERY hot in Windows, gaming or not.
Of note, Windows only sees the 9600M GT, and gets uncomfortably hot (to the point I'm not only uncomfortable using it on my lap, but feel like I ought to be pointing a fan at the bottom-left (where the GPU is located).
The laptop was never uncomfortable on the 9400M, even while running WoW with the laptop directly on my lap. Just pleasantly warm. Same circumstances with the 9600M GT enabled I needed to throw a lapdesk under it, but it didn't get nearly as hot as under Windows.

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More info: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4718
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Does the new MBP with gt 750m get too hot while gaming?

I am planning to buy the new MBP with gt 750m and upgrade the cpu to intel i7-4960hq (2.6 GHz, 3.8 GHz max) but I am really confused. I am not going to use it for hardcore gaming but I will occasionally play Dota 2 and Civ 5. Additionally I will be using SolidWorks. I really want to know if it is capable of running these games/programs without generating too much heat because heat is a total dealbreaker for me.
My second question is about to CPU's heat generation. With the increase in clock speed as far as I know it is expected to generate more heat. I really want to learn if the cooling system is efficient enough for a system that has both i7-4960hq and GT 750M GDDR5.

I've had the original MBP, the 2.33 C2D, the 2.4 C2D, and just got a 2.5 C2D. I'm amazed at how much cooler the new ones run. Even doing the extended hardware test on AC power the fans never got over 3500rpm (the earlier machines would have been blasting at maximum rpm). I can run things at 100% processor tasks using both cores and still keep it on my lap. I'm just amazed at how much this hasn't been commented on. To me this is the big improvement in the new processors, the heat is now finally tolerable in an Intel based Mac laptop.

Does the new Classic run the same software as the older one?

Does the new (120GB) version of the Classic run the same software as the older ones (80/160GB)?
The reason I ask this is because I am interested in a Classic, but only the 160GB version. Will it run the same software, with the same features, as the new 120GB version?
For that matter, is there any difference between the two versions of the Classic, other than storage capacity?

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What are the new software features, other than Genius (which I don't plan on using anyway)?
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Better battery life.
Same slimmer size as the old 80GB (I guess the 160GB was pretty chunky).
The headphone port now supporting the new remote control and microphone headphones (where ever that gets released) so you can record your own voice memos and control the iPod from the headphone cord rather than digging it out of your pocket.
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http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/reviews/entry/apple-ipod-classic-120gb
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I was wondering if anyone knows if the newly released Macbook Pros support HDCP Content Protection for Blu-ray and HD DVD Playback. Thanks.

No, they do not as of yet as far as I am aware.

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After Mavericks Install, MBP runs hot all the time

Im sure this has been said all over the community but I have to add my two cents. My 2011 MBP was perfect on Mtn Lion. I started the update which failed on install, which I then had to wipe the HD and do a fresh install. My time machine backup wouldnt even restore, that was a fun night let me tell you. Anyways, ever since I installed Mavericks, not only do I have the service battery issue everyone else has but now even running firefox or watching a movie will make the laptop run super hot and the fans start going. Ive even had the MBP shut itself down twice b/c of the overheating. Example: I almost couldnt even get time machine to make a new first time backup b/c the laptop starting running hot during the backup and it shut itself down. The second attempt worked but it sure seemed like it was on the verge of shutting down again. I just tried resetting the SMC but I dont think it did anything if you want my honest opinion.
I hope apple is listening and realizes what mess mavericks is making of our older macbooks.

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I am really concerned...I bought the new MBP 13 inch yesterday and saw terrible battery life. I thought I would give it a day, but today, after charging it fully, it only showed 4 hour left after I unplugged for 10 minutes, and now 3:48 left after unplugging it for 20 minutes.
I went to support.apple.com to schedule a support call, but the ridiculous interface asked me to pick what type of problem is this related to, but ONLY GIVING ME TWO CHOICES: 1. iTune 8 or 2. iTune 9. *** is wrong w/ their support site? Also it didn't know I have my laptop, so I had to type in serial number manually. After choosing my laptop, yeah it told me I could only pick iTune 8 or iTune 9 as my problem. This is inside MacBook Pro support age!! WTFFF???
Then, once I filled up the drop down list (I had to choose some ridiculous category unrelated to my problem), it told me I can schedule a call back at a later time. It wouldn't even call me back! But it had the decency to tell me "you can always schedule a call back..." ***??? Is this because I am behind a corproate firewall? I got stuck in some crazy loop too on developer.apple.com yesterday, but I doubt today's problem is related to VPN.
Lastly, no I am not running my PC crazily. Not playing any media or using any hardware or connected to any device. Only have wifi on, browsing the web, and brightness at 50%.
I prob shall bring this in but I am flying out tonight I really don't want to spend an hour driving to the store and back...HELP!

Hi lyziwyg,
Charge life varies immensely depending on what you are doing with your computer. THings like screen brightness, the use of bluetooth, external USB devices etc etc also have a substantial impact. A computer that will run for eight hours running a word processor and email software, may only manage two or three if you are watching lots of vids, connected to blue tooth, using the iSight Camera, running DVDs or CDs etc etc.
Have a look at Neuroanatomist's excellent FAQ on batteries at http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1764220 for some good advice on looking after the battery in your new computer, and read Apple's own advice at http://www.apple.com/batteries/notebooks.html too.
While you should calibrate your battery when it is new, and then every couple of months thereafter, it is actually best NOT to run Lithium batteries right down from full charge too often. You will find that regular light usage is what they thrive on - use them every day when convenient for an hour or so, but try to avoid the "charge it up overnight and then run it flat every day" approach that some people use. That approach used to work well with the old "NiCad" batteries, but it is really very bad for Lithium ones.
Cheers
Rod

Question on the new MBP

Hi,
I currently have a two year old PBG4 and have been having problems with it getting extremely hot. Do the new MBP or MB get hot?
Thanks,
-Dan

YMMV.
I replaced a one year old Powerbook with a MacBook Pro. I find them to be approximately as hot as each other. However, the experience of people seems to vary dramatically - so much so that some people have been ripping their MacBook Pros apart and doing some rather extensive internal surgurey to 'fix' heat problems.

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My take on the new MBP

Hi all,
I thought I would give you guys and gals my opinion on the new MBP.
Firstly let me explain that I bought my MBP to replace my old PB G4 17" 1.67Ghz model, so as you can probably imagine it's a fairly big upgrade for me.
I have also been using Apple stuff for 20 years and have spent a small fortune on their products.
I am a web designer and a photographer, an amateur photographer I hasten to add!
The main software I use on my machines are Flash, Photoshop, Aperture, Dreamweaver, Final Cut etc. Without these I am lost.
Okay down to the nitty gritty, I have been reading forums all over the net and heard a lot of people moaning about these new machines, I do appreciate it may not be to some people's liking for whatever reason but please note this is just my opinion on the new MBP's.
I have the 2.4Ghz version with no RAM upgrade as yet.
My first opinion when getting it out of the box was 'Wow', these machines really do look nice, the colour of course is the same as old and it's difficult to explain why they look so nice, maybe it's because they are thinner, maybe it's because they are moulded, I really don't know but I do know that with most Apple products you cannot appreciate them until you've seen them in the flesh.
Opening the lid, well this was a revelation it looks absolutely stunning, simple, elegant and the screen (I know what most people think) is absolutely superb. Let me talk about the screen a little, now I know why there are different complaints about this and it generally boils down to calibration issues for pro photographers and people who need to print professionally. I of course had the matte screen on my 17" PB and can tell you now that it really used to annoy me when I was outside as I could not see the thing at all. On many occasions I wanted to sit out in the garden during the summer and do some work but was unable to. I have a computer upstairs in my office and use my MBP downstairs in the living room, this allows me to carry on doing work and still chat with my girlfriend downstairs. One of the major problems I do have is that the sun (especially in the winter months when it's much lower) shines directly through the window and beams nicely onto my MBP. With my PB I used to have to close the blind (much to my girlfriends annoyance) otherwise it was impossible to work with but with my new machine I can see the screen perfectly without closing it. In fact I am sitting in that very position now with the sunlight beaming through and it's no problem. I'm not going to say there is no reflection at all but it's hardly noticeable and I can definitely say with hand held on my heart that the screen is fantastic whether you are in direct sunlight or night. My girlfriend has the MB (the previous model) and she has a glossy screen, I'm not sure what Apple have done but the glossy screens on these new ones are much better.
The Keyboard.
I know some people don't like the chicklet keyboard but I have no problems with them. I actually prefer them to the older style but I guess that's personal preference. The backlight is absolutely fantastic, it's one of my favourite things on this machine. My old PB had a backlight keyboard but due to the silver keys and white lettering it was near on impossible to see at certain angles, even when looking at it directly it was nothing to write home about. The new backlight on the MBP is just fantastic, I can't say enough good things about it, you have to see it for yourself.
Trackpad.
Mmmmm, really love the look and the size, it makes other trackpads look totally archaic. However I'm not too sure about the whole clicking thing. I am not having problems that others have mentioned about the click not registering or taking time to register. To me the click works as well and as efficiently as a standard button but it is harder to press down and noisier. Apple mentioned that they spent many many hours just getting the click sound right but I think they could have done much better with this. It's the only thing on the machine I am not totally convinced about and could definitely be improved but it's certainly not a deal breaker.
Battery Life
Seems okay at the moment, I probably get around 3 hours with it but as with most Apple products this improves over time.
General Use.
I have had it since launch and am over the moon with it. The speed is fantastic and it does exactly what it sets out to do. Whatever anyone says (and yes it is expensive) this IS (in my opinion) a brilliant piece of kit. It's fast, it's responsive and it looks fantastic. You would be hard pushed to find a better laptop on the market but of course you'll have to pay the price.
I urge you all before passing comment on these new MBP's to go and check one out and see for yourself how good they really are. I know there's nothing like testing one at home when doing your own work but I'm sure that you will be surprised at just how good these machines are and that some of the comments you may have thought originally will soon be forgotten.

Sweet! I cannot wait for mine to arrive this week. i actually went
to the apple store to check it out i can not wait for its arrival. i was very impressed
Im going from a 1.25ghz PB with only 512mb ram to the new MBP with 4gb
of ram. Talk about a major upgrade (yes!!) As a fellow web/multimedia designer
I know I will benefit from this upgrade. I really hope to be more productive
with having dreamweaver,photoshop,flash etc all open at once. A sImple RAM upgrade
could have solve some of my problems wIth my current PB...but this new machine is just
beautiful and durable and will really help me work easier. My current PB will be my side project and back up for now. 5 years I've waited to upgrade........ and glad i did.

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