[done] Alternative to compiz (unusual "tiling compiz" setup)

Compiz isn't doing so well...hasn't been for a while... and I wonder what I'm going to do when it will get too hard to keep working on my machine... guess my way of working with compiz is rather far away from the standard... is there another window manager around that can be set up to work (almost) like what I'm used to?
Most important feature for me include but are not limited to:
- The grid plugin. I mostly use compiz as a tiling window manager, without window decorations. The easy & fast "num pad / 3 available sizes toggle, 9 center points" is ideal for me.
- Desktop Plane / Expo on a mouse button: I use this to drag windows around. Also to drag them to the desktop I want them on. Also to get a quick overview of what's happening on the other desktops... like keeping an eye on resync while I watch a video fullscreen.
- Fish Eye / Magnifier / mousewheel on top screen edge: If have this set up to work with screen edge instead of keyboard keys, because usually when I need it I don't have my keyboard with me. I tend to walk around with my mouse a lot and that's when I want quick & easy access to the magnifier / fish eye.
- Setting rules for windows. Mostly for window decorations: I only want those on "temporary / floating / popup" sort of windows... the rest is tiled neatly anyway.
- Scale plugin on a mouse button. So I can easily switch between windows that are on different desktops. Also as I don't have window decoration for most programs, I use it to close programs.
- widget layer: I like conky. And I like a panel (when I don't have my keyboard with me). Just don't want to see it always.
So... if you use a (sort of) similar setup / "workflow" but another window manager - let me know which one please, thanks!
Last edited by whoops (2012-06-11 13:26:22)

DE Base... like: compiz + xfce4session + a little bit of lxde = does everything I want. Has been great for years... just it's starting to look like it won't be working much longer. Compiz is hardest to replace I guess, the rest that's missin whould be easy once I found something that has the freatures described above.
Hard to describe that fish-eye-thing better than in the first post... hmm.... if I have some sort of fish eye where I can bind the mouse wheel at screen edges to zoom in + zoom out... then I can... more easily do anything I can do without a keyboard from afar? Read, click buttons, change desktop, drag files into windows... with a quick mousewheel stroke that zooms into "fisheye mode" it's a lot easier than with a normal magnifier to do things from afar, especially with a smooth / pseydo-steppless zoom. Haven't looked at gnome + kde for too long, but what I saw available there looked like just a normal magnifier which has to be started and then it's always open with a square "window".
Also there I saw no way to specify which windows are supposed to have decorations and which ones not.
( And I don't have to tile windows without a keyboard, because I only very rarely need new ones - everything stays open and I can easily switch around with scale or expo plugin.)

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Hi all,
I initially came over to Arch from Ubuntu+Compiz, so of course Gnome+Compiz was a natural fit for me. Have tried KDE a few times, up to 4.2 even, but never really got the hang of it.
The more I think about it, however, the more I realize that I probably don't really need Gnome, as most of the functionality I need is Compiz-related. I do use a lot of the default Gnome apps, however, as well as the panel (purely for displaying an easy-to-click calendar), but primarily do my launching from Alt-F2 or Gnome-do, whichever comes to mind first. I do find the list of applications helpful, however, since sometimes the name of the application or launcher just slips my mind.
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Last edited by ngoonee (2009-08-11 01:06:15)

Well, seeing as compiz is a WM any of the other WMs are out. Essentially then, you're left with KDE + Compiz, standalone or one of the lighter DEs.
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I am connecting an external display to my laptop. The laptop display is 1280x800, while the external display is 1280x1024.
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eazy wrote:
MorningWood wrote:I actually came across this thread because I'm experiencing the exact same issue. Anyone know how to fix this?
I still haven't found a solution, but I managed to work with Compiz on the main screen (in my case the laptop) and Metacity on the other screen...
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That's actually the work around I was looking for! Thanks a lot. I'm using a 26" tv as the secondary display and compiz is kind of pointless on that, at least to me. For some odd reason I've also noticed that when I set the larger display to a resolution lower than the main display (the laptop lcd), there is no bar with compiz. I don't know how solid this is because after a few restarts it went back to the intended resolution, but since doing the same step again it's been working for now.
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Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "Screen"
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Identifier "Screen1"
Device "Device1"
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I currently try to use a metacity theme and have compiz enabled but apparently that's something compiz doesn't really like.
One think i noticed in fusion-icon is that the entire metacity option under: "Select Window Devorator" is just not there.. (or was that always the case?)
Oke, things i have done so far:
- Search this forum (obviously) nothing found with a solution
- Searched the wiki (same results)
- in gconf-editor /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager set to compiz (like said in the Compiz wiki page on archlinux.org
- disabled metacity as compositing manager (tried with enabled as well but the same results)
- right now i have the compiz bash script from ubuntu (tweaked a little) and that starts up compiz just fine but not with metacity
And incase you want the script:
#!/bin/sh
# Compiz Manager wrapper script
# Copyright (c) 2007 Kristian Lyngstøl <[email protected]>
# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
# it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
# the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or
# (at your option) any later version.
# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
# GNU General Public License for more details.
# You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
# along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
# Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin St, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301 USA
# Contributions by: Treviño (3v1n0) <[email protected]>, Ubuntu Packages
# Much of this code is based on Beryl code, also licensed under the GPL.
# This script will detect what options we need to pass to compiz to get it
# started, and start a default plugin and possibly window decorator.
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PLUGIN_PATH="/usr/lib/compiz/"
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LIBGL_FGLRX="/usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa"
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XORG_DRIVER_PATH="/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/+"
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T="$T 8086:2a02 " # Intel GM965
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VERBOSE="yes"
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printf "$*"
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verbose "SKIP_CHECKS is yes, so continuing despite problems.\n"
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fi
if [ "x$CM_DRY" = "xyes" ]; then
verbose "Dry run failed: Problems detected with 3D support.'n"
exit 1;
fi
verbose "aborting and using fallback: $FALLBACKWM \n"
if [ -x $FALLBACKWM ]; then
exec $FALLBACKWM $FALLBACKWM_OPTIONS
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printf "no $FALLBACKWM found, exiting\n"
exit 1
fi
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verbose "present. \n";
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verbose "Not present. \n"
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verbose "present. \n";
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verbose "Not present. \n"
return 1;
fi
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if [ "$INDIRECT" = "yes" ]; then
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else
$GLXINFO | grep -q GLX.*fbconfig
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fi
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verbose "present. \n"
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if [ $($GLXINFO 2>/dev/null | grep -c GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap) -gt 2 ] ; then
verbose "present. \n"
return 0;
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verbose "not present. \n"
if [ "$INDIRECT" = "yes" ]; then
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INDIRECT="yes"
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verbose "not present. \n"
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if [ ! -x "$NVIDIA_SETTINGS" ]; then
return 0
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return $NVIDIA_INTERNAL_TEST;
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VRES=$(echo $RESOLUTION | sed 's/.*x//')
HRES=$(echo $RESOLUTION | sed 's/x.*//')
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if [ $VRES -gt $TEXTURE_LIMIT ] || [ $HRES -gt $TEXTURE_LIMIT ]; then
verbose "Failed.\n"
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verbose "Passed.\n"
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ENV="$ENV LD_PRELOAD=${LIBGL_NVIDIA}"
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if [ "x$INDIRECT" != "xyes" ]; then
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# Read configuration from XDG paths
if [ -z "$XDG_CONFIG_DIRS" ]; then
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for f in /etc/xdg/compiz/compiz-manager.d/*; do
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do
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test -e $f && . $f
done
done
IFS=$OLD_IFS
unset OLD_IFS
fi
if [ -z "$XDG_CONFIG_HOME" ]; then
test -f $HOME/.config/compiz/compiz-manager && . $HOME/.config/compiz/compiz-manager
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test -f $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/compiz/compiz-manager && . $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/compiz/compiz-manager
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fi
if [ "x$LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT" = "x1" ]; then
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fi
if check_nvidia && ! check_nvidia_memory; then
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fi
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abort_with_fallback_wm
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if [ -f ${PLUGIN_PATH}libccp.so ]; then
COMPIZ_PLUGINS="$COMPIZ_PLUGINS ccp"
elif [ -f ${PLUGIN_PATH}libgconf.so ]; then
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fi
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verbose "running under gnome seesion, checking for gnomecompat\n"
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build_args
if [ "x$CM_DRY" = "xyes" ]; then
verbose "Dry run finished: everything should work with regards to Compiz and 3D.\n"
verbose "Execute: ${COMPIZ_BIN_PATH}${COMPIZ_NAME} $COMPIZ_OPTIONS "$@" $COMPIZ_PLUGINS \n"
exit 0;
fi
${COMPIZ_BIN_PATH}${COMPIZ_NAME} $COMPIZ_OPTIONS "$@" $COMPIZ_PLUGINS || exec $FALLBACKWM $FALLBACKWM_OPTIONS
That's it so far.
So again what i try to do is running compiz with metacity decorations.
I hope someone can help me here,
Mark.
Last edited by markg85 (2009-06-28 00:26:04)

whoops wrote:
Wait, what, I thought metacity isn't as window decorator, it is a window manager, right? I don't really get what you're trying to do... maybe install compiz-decorator-gtk and use it instead of emerald?
edit: aaah, yes, I think you're missing compiz-decorator-gtk, try that, look at fusion icon "window decorator" option again.
Strange.. i was under the impression that pacman -S compiz-fusion would install GTK and QT decorators... guess not.
This issue is fixed now. Running metacity decorations now WITH compiz.

Problem with Compiz Fusion 0.5.2 Internal Server Error

I trying compiz fusion 0.5.2 version, but I have this error:
$ sudo pacman -Sy compiz-fusion
:: Synchronizing package databases...
current is up to date
extra is up to date
community is up to date
compiz-fusion is up to date
:: group compiz-fusion:
ccsm compiz-bcop compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported
compizconfig-python emerald emerald-themes libcompizconfig
:: Install whole content? [Y/n]
resolving dependencies... done.
looking for inter-conflicts...
:: compiz conflicts with compiz-git. Remove compiz-git? [Y/n]
done.
Remove: compiz-git
Targets: compiz-0.5.2-1 libcompizconfig-0.5.2-1 compizconfig-python-0.5.2-1 ccsm-0.5.2-1 compiz-bcop-0.5.2-1
compiz-fusion-plugins-main-0.5.2-1 compiz-fusion-plugins-extra-0.5.2-1
compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported-0.5.2-1 beryl-core-0.2.1-1 emerald-0.2.1-1 emerald-themes-0.2.1-1
Total Package Size: 6.19 MB
Total Installed Size: 13.91 MB
Proceed with installation? [Y/n]
:: Retrieving packages from compiz-fusion...
error: failed retrieving file 'compiz-fusion-plugins-main-0.5.2-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz' from arch.nesl247.org : Internal Server Error
error: failed retrieving file 'compiz-fusion-plugins-extra-0.5.2-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz' from arch.nesl247.org : Internal Server Error
error: failed retrieving file 'compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported-0.5.2-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz' from arch.nesl247.org : Internal Server Error
warning: failed to retrieve some files from compiz-fusion
error: failed to commit transaction (unexpected error)
What's the problem with this three packages?.
Best regards.

You can install the packages from AUR too (you will need to compile them).
Ive compiled the packlages with GNOME support and athlon optimizations and puted on my ftp:
http://download.tuxfamily.org/oproj/compizfusion/

Compiz 8.9 vs Compiz 9.X

I decided I wanted to try compiz for a highly customizable window manager with advanced compositing (over Openbox with Compton which I have so far used, any recommendations are of course welcome)
I noticed on the wiki that there are installation instructions for compiz 8.9 and compiz 9.x, and I noticed that 9.x seems to have most of the plugins and utilities all merged together into one neat little package, whereas 8.9 seems tot have it all in pieces.
From this I can deduce that Compiz 8.9 is a bit more modular as in minimalist friendly, so that users can avoid installing features they don't really need. In my case though I don't think that would be worth it over a feature complete up to date version. But I was wondering if there is anything more to it (for example are the differences more like between enlightenment 16 and enlightenment 17, where the two can't even be compared, and are being separately maintained)
I tried googling this up but I didn't really find any topic discussing the differences, is what I just said above really all there is to it? or is there something I'm missing?

rabcor wrote:
I noticed on the wiki that there are installation instructions for compiz 0.8 and compiz 0.9, and I noticed that 9.x seems to have most of the plugins and utilities all merged together into one neat little package, whereas 8.9 seems tot have it all in pieces.
From this I can deduce that Compiz 0.8 is a bit more modular as in minimalist friendly, so that users can avoid installing features they don't really need.
Compiz was always split up into smaller packages because there were some features that always worked, others that worked most of the time, a couple that might work and other plug-ins which should work in theory (but no-one had time because they were unofficial plug-ins).
With the 0.9 series, Canonical (I think it is) decided to restructure Compiz, chose the features it wanted and left the others behind, so it doesn't contain as much as 0.8 did.
rabcor wrote:I tried googling this up but I didn't really find any topic discussing the differences, is what I just said above really all there is to it? or is there something I'm missing?
As I said above, Canonical decided to restructure Compiz, mainly for Unity. Beyond that, I haven't a clue because I don't use Compiz 0.9.

Compiz in Unstable

Since beryl project is becaming a confuse-chaotic project, where all plugins are added without a think on usability i'd like to use compiz, which from the last cvs support directly metacity themes.
Can it be packaged? (David reveneman >> Quinnstorm bugs)

The liberal open community-based development model is the thing I really _LOVE_ about Beryl and this is also why I don't like Compiz (I hate "one-man-show" development). Only after Beryl came up, David Reveman (Compiz developer) really started to communicate with community more actively. He were communicative as an oyster and now he is complaining that people behind Beryl never really tried to work with him. He is serious hypocrite.
Btw. I really like features in Beryl. And I am happy that Beryl developers doesn't like "GUI fascist" development approach like GNOME developers does. Well, I am KDE user, I generally really like a lot of features and configurability. Call me feature freak if you want, I am proud of it! ;-)
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Compiz windows decoration disappear

Using gnome as window manager, I installed compiz from wiki http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Compiz
I don't installed compiz-decorator-kde (only variant)
When start compiz-manager window title bar and borders disappear...
I'm check for a solution herehttp://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Com … leshooting and specific http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Com … E_fallback with no luck: my .gconf folder seems not contain any files or folders with "compiz" in the name.
My video card from lpci command: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72M [Quadro NVS 110M/GeForce Go 7300] (rev a1) on Toshiba notebook.
Console output:
$ compiz-manager
Checking for Xgl: not present.
Detected PCI ID for VGA: 01:00.0 0300: 10de:01d7 (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Checking for texture_from_pixmap: present.
Checking for non power of two support: present.
Checking for Composite extension: present.
Comparing resolution (1280x800) to maximum 3D texture size (4096): Passed.
Checking for nVidia: present.
Checking for FBConfig: present.
Checking for Xgl: not present.
Starting gtk-window-decorator
Thanks for your help.

Hey Silvio,
as far as I know, you should install compiz fusion, see here: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Compiz_Fusion.
The wiki you mentioned is deprecated, I think.

Compiz without Emerald [SOLVED]

Hello
I want to use compiz, but without buggy Emerald decorator (just Metacity).
So, I have installed: compiz-decorator-gtk and fusion-icon packages. And I choose Metacity from context menu of fusion-icon.
Additionaly I've instaled: ccsm package, (to be able to easy chose some window effects) and I've selected some effects from it.
So far so good, but nothing happened.
My question is how to enable window effects (choosen from ccsm, like 'woobly window, minimize effect' and etc.) using Metacity?
Last edited by clovenhoof (2010-11-03 12:25:04)

Gusar wrote:
clovenhoof wrote:My question is how to enable window effects (choosen from ccsm, like 'woobly window, minimize effect' and etc.) using Metacity?
You don't. Compiz is a window manager. Metacity is a window manager. If you activate one, the other is deactivated. If emerald is buggy, try gtk-window-decorator, I think (but I'm not sure) it's possible to use Metacity themes with it.
Then there's the possibility of using compiz-0.9.2. Search the forums, there are PKGBUILDs somewhere.
Is that means that I should choose 'Compiz' , not 'Metacity' from the context menu of fusion-icon, and use 'gtk-window-decorator --replace' in the 'Window Decoration' plug-in?
Last edited by clovenhoof (2010-11-02 10:43:47)

Compiz, window position and decoration

Hi all,
I was kind of "forced" to install Compiz on my XFCE desktop, due to the video playback tearing caused by the buggy Sandy Bridge Linux support.
So, everything runs fine. Except for two things:
1-Window decorations. Is there any way for Compiz to use XFCE window decorations instead of Emerald? I use "gtk-window-decorator", but it weirdly use a WD theme which isn't even the Emerald or the XFCE one.
2-Every window I open goes to the top-left corner of the screen. Is there any way for opening on center, or, even better, on the last position they were? XFCE does this by default.
Thanks for any help.
R.

You might try setting compiz to use XFCE decorations in ccsm. Open the Window Decoration plugin and in the "command" field:
xfwm --replace
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My ipad2 wants to now setup as new, but it's not new, and asks to restore from icloud or itunes. I don't know what to do

For no known reason, my Ipad 2 crashed. I turned it on one day and it acts like it's new. It says "setup new ipad" or restore using icloud or itunes. I don't know which to do because I don't want to lose what I had on my ipad and I don't know if I had icloud setup or not.

You don't have any choice. You will have to set the iPad up all over again now. Take a guess and pick one or the other and hope. You will be able to download most of your paid content again for free.
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Looking at getting an Eee PC. A zoom function in the window manager (similar, but not necessarily as flashy as, Compiz Fusion) would be a must. I'd like to use a tiling WM on it, though. Does anyone know which, if any, tiling WMs have a zoom function, or one can be easily added to them?
Thanks!

Some tiling WMs allow you to toggle fullscreen on/off for the focused window, in effect zooming in on one window (e.g. stumpWM). Others allow you to change layouts on the fly, and have a one-window-per-screen layout, for the same effect (e.g. wmii, xmonad).
I don't know of a tiling WM that supports zooming similar to compiz's.

Setup Problem HP6830 using Hotspot for Printer & Laptop

I have a TMobile Hotspot that gives me internet access for my laptop.I have a HP Officejet Pro that I just got and I'm trying to set it up on the Hotspot network.I've installed (via disk) the HP Software on my Toshiba Coimputer.I've gone through the setup process on the printer and it shows I'm connected to the Hotspot Network.When I try to go through the setup process on the computer it says it can't find that printer.I've checked - over and over again - the IP, and printed everything out (Config Page & Network TestResults) on the Printer, and it indicates everything is OK. My question is - Why can't my computer find the computer (they're both on the same Hotspot Network)?I don't have a USB Cable right now, and I'm trying to set it up wirelessly. Any suggestion about what I might have missed? Any help would be appreciated

Hey , Welcome to the HP Support Forum. I understand you're encountering some setup issues when using your HP Officejet Pro 6830 e-All-in-One Printer with a mobile hot spot. I would like to assist you with this. In my experience, mobile hotspots are hit and miss when used to support printers' wireless connections, even when the setup's are completed with diligence and care on the part of the user. This caveat aside, as there are no official documents from HP on how to troubleshoot this particular issue, I recommend toggling airplane mode on your T-Mobile device before restoring the hotspot connection. Try the printer to laptop connection via the software as before, once you've confirmed the laptop's connected to the hotspot. If this approach falls short, you could try the alternative and HP supported wireless direct setup method. Here's how: From your printer's front panel touch the Wireless Direct icon ()Turn Wireless Direct OnFrom here you can choose to have it enabled with Security On or Off. If you turn Security On, make a note of the passcode (it'll come in handy later).To learn how to complete the setup on your computer and any other mobile devices, click here for more instructions. Please let me know the result of your troubleshooting by responding to this post. If I have helped you resolve the issue, feel free to give me a virtual high-five by clicking the 'Thumbs Up' icon below and clicking to accept this solution. Thank you for posting in the HP Support Forum. Have a great day!

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