Dot as a keyword separator

I'm sorry if asked before ... I think that "treat '.' as a keyword separator" checkbox on the preferences window does not work as expected.
I want to create keyword hierarchy with this option when importing, but Lr does not separate keywords entered with dot between them.

I just tested it in LR 5.2 and it worked as expected for me. To troubleshoot this, can you provide more details:
- What tool are you using to set the keywords in the file before importing into LR?
- Do you know which metadata field the tool is storing the keywords into?
- Give an example of dot-separated keywords as entered with the tool; what happens when you import it into LR? What keyword(s) does LR create?

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Keyword separator

Please change the keyword separator from a semi-colon to a comma. I have image keywords in a zillion sites on the web - none of them use semi-colons by default, and many can't digest them.

I just tested it in LR 5.2 and it worked as expected for me. To troubleshoot this, can you provide more details:
- What tool are you using to set the keywords in the file before importing into LR?
- Do you know which metadata field the tool is storing the keywords into?
- Give an example of dot-separated keywords as entered with the tool; what happens when you import it into LR? What keyword(s) does LR create?

Treat '.' and '/' as a keyword separator.

How are these options from the preferences dialog supposed to work?
They don't work for the import dialog.

And, also for "ignore camera-generated folder names when naming folders".
I also could not find any effect for this option on the preferences dialog.
When devices selected as a source, we can not see camera folders.
So we should select files section.
When files selected as a source, we can choose "organize by folders" option for seeing camera folder names.
But in this case, I can not see any difference whether or not this option checked.

Bridge has error when adding additional keywords to InDesign snippet IDMS files

I have recently created a whole library of InDesign Snippets. I opened Bridge to add keywords to these files. I can add the first keyword with no problem, but when I try to add a second keyword, I get this error: "There was an error writing metadata to <filename.idms>"
Some interesting observations:
I use a list of keywords and subkeywords in Bridge so all I have to do is check the corresponding keyword checkbox. With every IDMS file, I can check only *ONE* keyword. I will get an error when I attempt to check a second keyword.
If I re-export the IDMS from InDesign, it will overwrite the metadata, and I am once again allowed to add one checkbox before getting the error.
If I take a clean IDMS file (no keyword metadata already added), I can Rt+Click on the IDMS icon in Bridge and pull up File Info and under the Keywords section, I can type in multiple keywords separated by commas and save. This IDMS file will then show checked boxes next to all of the keywords I had manually added. At this point, if I try to add more keywords (either by clicking the checkbox or by going to Rt+Click->File Info), I will get the "There was an error writing metadata to <filename.idms>" error.
I've seen other posts about image files having an issue not allowing any metadata to be written at all... this problem is slightly different in that I do not have any problem adding that first keyword. But something is happening after the metadata is saved with that first keyword that does not allow me to add additional keywords.
Thanks for anyone and everyone's help on this most perplexing problem.
~ Mindy Allen
Adobe Bridge CC 6.1.0.116 x64
Adobe InDesign CC 2014.1 Release -- 10.1.0.70 x 64
Dell Precision T3600 running Windows 7 Professional

can anyone adivce on my question please ?

Keyword FIND problem in CS3 Bridge (Windows XP Professional)

Select a large group of photos. File > File Info. In File Info dialogue box, enter Europe in the keyword field.
Next, select a sub-group, add the keyword as above Italy. For another sub-group add the word France, and for a third sub-group add the word England. Keywords are separated by commas.
Now, browsing all the Europe photos, select a few photos from each of the three countries AS A GROPUP (this is important), and using File Info, keyword all of that group Landscape. You will notice in the File Info dialogue box that the keyword field now says (multiple values) so add a comma, and then the word Landscape.
If you then, again, browse all the Europe photos, and go to Edit > Find > keywords contains Italy AND keywords contains Landscape, and use the criteria Match if ALL criteria are met NO results are returned. (It does work if criteria is ANY criteria are met.)
So how do you find only the images that are Landscapes in Italy?
I notice that if the word Landscape is added only to some images of Italy, then SEPARATELY only added to some images from France, and then SEPARATELY only added to some images from ENGLAND the ALL search criteria does work. But this is pretty lame, and totally defeats the whole idea of batch keywording. Am I doing something wrong? Is there a work-around? Does Adobe know of this issue?

Hey, I screwed up the search for waterfall. I thought I put Costa Rica on a group of files, and then went back and added waterfall. When I searched I got no results. Tried it in Vista search and got no results either. Discovered a DUMB mistake. Had spelled Costa as Costra. When I did a search for Costra Rica and waterfall it gave the correct results.
So bottom line it does work! Sorry for the mixup. Guess that sends you back to the search drawing board. Try same search in another program and see if you get the correct response. If you have Vista the advanced search lets you add keywords separated with semicolon (;).

Problem Importing Keywords with jpg photos into Library

I am a new and enthusiastic LR user working to migrate from iMatch, where I have kept my ~80,000 photos organized for the last several years. However, my last roadblock to being able to do that is the import of keyword information (or as iMatch calls them, Categories). Obviously it's critical that these transfer across seemlessly as they represent untold number of hours in sorting and managing the database.
The situation: Via an iMatch script I can successfully write the associated categories, including hierarchy, into an IPTC field of my choosing that is then included with the jpg file itself. I have done this into the "Keywords" field, with various combinations of special characters and/or spaces to denote hierarchy relationships or separate keywords.
Upon LR import: LR recognizes the presence of the keywords and pulls them into the metadata, but refuses to see them as anything except part of one continuous hierarchy.
Example: A picture in iMatch has two Categories associated with it, both of which are organized under a parent-->child hierarchy:
Trips --> Switzerland2006 and Special --> Family --> Daughter
When written via script into the IPTC Keyword field of the jpg file, it looks like this: Trips.Switzerland2006; Special.Family.Daughter
(note -- I can make the semicolon separating the keywords anything, such as a comma, space, etc. I have tried all.)
When imported into LR, it ends up looking like this under the left panel Keyword Tags area: Trips --> Switzerland2006; Special --> Family --> Daughter
In the righthand panel under "Keyword Tags", I only see "Daughter" as this is at the bottom of the single stack hierarchy that was interpreted.
In other words: I have found no possible way for LR to recognize that there is in fact MORE THAN ONE keyword coming in, rather than always a single hierarchy stack or very long words with spaces, semicolons, whatever included in between.
I have tried every setting under Preferences-->File Handling, but those only give me options about when to tell LR to recognize a hierarchy step, not about what character to see as a separation between keywords themselves.
Final note: If I first open one of my picture files in Adobe Bridge and look at the IPTC field Keyword there, it looks perfect. And if I go into that field and mess around a bit -- add a space, take away a space -- with in the end no change, then resave the file, THEN bring into LR, it works fine! I believe what is happening in this case is that Bridge is correctly interpreting the Keyword data from the file, but then is writing it into an XMP area that I can't see. LR must then read the XMP area in preference over the IPTC are upon import.... But -- if Bridge can read the original IPTC line correctly, why not Lightroom?!
Bottom line question: What format or special character or special trick must be used for multiple keywords in the IPTC Keyword field so that Lightroom will correctly recognize the multiple keywords upon import?
Thank you!
JMC

Do those keyword hierarchies show up properly in Vista Photo Gallery? I have the LR Edit/Preferences/File Handling configured to treat "/" (which is what Vista Photo Gallery uses) as a keyword separator and LR recognizes the hierarchical keywords.
As I understand it, Vista reads both XMP and IIM/IPTC Headers, but will write only to XMP. I forced Photo Gallery to convert my keywords to XMP by adding a global keyword and then deleting it later. Then I used drag and drop to recreate the hierarchies. It works for me.

Option To Insert "/" Between Hierarchical Keywords

"Treat "/" as a keyword separator" works for me when importing on Vista. I would like to see it added as an option for export. For example, I have keyword hierarchies of Places/National Parks/Yellowstone and Wildlife/Bears/Grizzly in both LR and my Vista Photo Gallery. Having LR automatically insert "/" when I export would automatically add them to their proper place in Photo Gallery. I would expect that "Places/National Parks/Yellowstone,Wildlife/Bears/Grizzly" would pop up in Keyword Tags and that when exported the images would be added to their proper hierarchies. Of course, this should be optional.

So to sum up, I should be spending time devising a sensible keyword structure for the entire library, and then per project/import, select which keywords I'm likely going to use for this particular set of photos
Yes, find keyword sets for typical workflows - the ones you will need for family shots, for vacation trips, for specific projects you are working on.
That seems to make sense, however what happens if I have forgotten to add an already existing keyword to my button sets and add it later (using the textfield above the button set selector), will that duplicate the keyword (ie adding it again to the toplevel), or will it select the keyword from deep down in the already existing hierarchy (the preferred approach!)?
if you add an already existing keyword in the searchfield, the search will show all already defined versions of this keyword. You may have used it more than once - for example "Flower"
There are predefined keywords that may be using the same term. Click the one you want to use.
Then the existing keyword will be used.
You can add new keywords to the button set any time from the "Edit" panel:

Remove quotation marks from a keyword

Hi, need a help on this....
I build a whole tree for my keywords and in some of them, I used more them one word in the same keyword, separated by comma.
eg: whale, whales
The problem is when I do that, it creates a quotation mark and the other softwares dont understand it as 2 words and can not slipt it.
Is there any way I can get rid of the quotation marks?
Thanks in advance for any help.

So it looks as if it can't be done the way you want it to work.
There is a work around but requires a little more work.
Insert the keywords as you are doing at the present.
Then run a script on the selected documents to sort the keywords removing the quotes.
Here is a script that will do just this...
#target bridge
if( BridgeTalk.appName == "bridge" ) {
var menu = MenuElement.find ('updateKeywords');
if (menu == null){
updateKeywords = MenuElement.create( "command", "Update Keywords", "-at the end of tools", "updateKeywords" );
updateKeywords.onSelect = function () {
if (ExternalObject.AdobeXMPScript == undefined) ExternalObject.AdobeXMPScript = new ExternalObject("lib:AdobeXMPScript");
var sels = app.document.selections;
for(var a in sels){
var xmpf = new XMPFile(sels[a].spec.fsName, XMPConst.UNKNOWN, XMPConst.OPEN_FOR_UPDATE);
var xmp = xmpf.getXMP();
var keys = getArrayItems(XMPConst.NS_DC,'subject').replace(/[";]/g,',');
keys = keys.split(',');
xmp.deleteProperty(XMPConst.NS_DC,'subject');
        for(var s in keys){
        xmp.appendArrayItem(XMPConst.NS_DC, "subject", keys[s], 0,XMPConst.PROP_IS_ARRAY);
if (xmpf.canPutXMP(xmp)) {
        xmpf.putXMP(xmp);
         xmpf.closeFile(XMPConst.CLOSE_UPDATE_SAFELY);
function getArrayItems(ns, prop){
var arrItem=[];
var items = xmp.countArrayItems(ns, prop);
   for(var i = 1;i <= items;i++){
     arrItem.push(xmp.getArrayItem(ns, prop, i));
return arrItem.toString();
To install..
Copy and paste the script into ExtendScript Toolkit
This gets installed with Photoshop and can be found:-
PC: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Utilities
MAC: <hard drive>/Applications/Utilities/Adobe Utilities
Start Bridge
PC: Edit - Preferences - Startup Scripts
Mac: Adobe Bridge menu - Preferences - Startup Scripts
At the bottom click the "Reveal Button" this will open the folder where the script should be saved.
Close and restart Bridge.
Accept the new script.
To use:-
Select the documents to update
Tools - "Update Keywords"

How to put separator in between the output lines

SELECT EMP_NO FROM EMPLOYEE
OUTPUT
0001
0002
0003
0004
0005How to have a dotted line or some separator in between two outpur lines ? (Like '----' between 0003 and 0004)
Yogesh

I want to have a dotted line after each EMP_NAMEThis?
SQL> var c number
SQL> exec :c := 1
PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.
SQL> select empno, ename
from (select rownum rn, to_char(empno) empno, ename from emp
        union all
        select level * :c + 1, '-----', '----------------'
          from dual
        connect by level <= (select count (*) / :c from emp)
        order by 1, 2)
EMPNO ENAME
7369 SMITH
7499 ALLEN
7521 WARD
7566 JONES
7654 MARTIN
7698 BLAKE
7782 CLARK
7788 SCOTT
7839 KING
7844 TURNER
7876 ADAMS
7900 JAMES
7902 FORD
7934 MILLER
28 rows selected.

Hierarchical keywords

Now that with LR 1.1 the db/library became finally usable, I wonder how consistent the keyword functionality in LR really is. On the left side we have the 'hierarchical keyword' panel which works great! However all the other keywording tools in the library module seem to deal always with single keywords. For example, if I have duplicate keywords at different hierarchy levels like in the following case:
things.vehicles.cars
events.2007.motorshow.cars
How do I deal with such cases when I use the keywording tool on the right panel? I think that the present mechanisms also enhances the probability for inconsistencies in the keyword tree because of typing errors. My feeling is that a single instance to define keywords in the hierarchical keyword tree and other tools to assign them to the pics would be the best, but maybe I simple don't fully understand the keyword concept in LR...

I have been taking a new look at some of my hierarchical keywords now that LR1.1 is out and am even more puzzled. I have a group of old images that had never been in LR, but had been re-organized in Vista Photo Gallery. When I tried importing some of them into LR1.1 they came in with the hierarchical tree intact in the Keyword Tags panel as pretty as you please with only the lowest level of the keyword chain displayed in Keywording. Then I copied a RAW file to my desktop, imported it into LR with no keywords, added the hierarchical keywords I had previously imported and exported the file to a new jpeg. Photo gallery added each keyword as a top-level keyword instead of adding them to the proper hierarchy. Those keywords are separated by commas in the picture/properties/details/tags field. What really puzzles me is that if I import a jpeg that I had previously exported from LR with a top level keyword and added to a keyword hierarchy in Photo Gallery it comes in with all the keywords in the hierarchy separated by a "/" even though I do have the "Treat "/" as a keyword separator" box checked in preferences. For my personal needs, it still more convenient to use only top level keywords in LR and to use the drag and drop method in Photo Gallery to organize them into hierarchies- at least until Adobe and Microsoft sort this out or someone shows me what I am doing wrong. Edit: I should say that I re-imported the just-exported jpeg file. It came in with the keywords separated by commas.

Quick search for multiple keywords

I haven't seen this anywhere else, and I just discovered it yesterday: If you type in several keywords separated by commas, it will search all the images in the folder/album/project that have all the specified keywords. No need to bring up the search HUD and click on individual keywords. It's been a big time saver for me when trying to narrow down a search.

I haven't seen this anywhere else, and I just
discovered it yesterday: If you type in several
keywords separated by commas, it will search all the
images in the folder/album/project that have all the
specified keywords. No need to bring up the search
HUD and click on individual keywords. It's been a big
time saver for me when trying to narrow down a search.
That's a nice little trick! Thanks for sharing.

Export keywords hierarchy

I would like to export the whole keyword hierarchy for the photos I export but I can't find a way to do it.
For example, if I have
a
--b
-----c
d
e
f
--g
-----h
and a photo keyworded with b, e and h I would like the exported image to have the keywords:
a, b, e, f, g, h
I can do this with FlickrExport but I can't figure out how to do it using the standard "version export".
Does anyone know how it can be done?

The first image is a screen capture of a throw away image in PSE 7. The second image is a screen capture of MS Pro Photo Tools and the Vista Image Properties/Details for the same image. There are two hierarchies created in Lightroom and exported as Lightroom hierarchies: Places/National Parks/Glacier and Wildlife/Birds/Clark's Nutcracker. The keywords show up as a flat hierarchy with each keyword separated by a comma in PSE 7 and by a semicolon in both Pro Photo Tools and the image details. I have not been able to find a way to get PSE 7 to respect Lightroom hierarchies.
I would be particularly displeased with Adobe to learn that the Windows version of Bridge does respect Lightroom hierarchies now that Adobe is offering Bridge bundled with the Mac version of PSE 8 but sticking Windows users with the Organizer

Improved Keyword Searching Needed

One frustration I have with Lightroom is with the difficulty it has with dealing with spaces in keywords when trying to do searches. For example, if I have images with the keyword 'University of Michigan' (no primes around the keyword), I'm unable to find images with just the keyword 'University of Michigan'. Instead, I'll get things with University, Michigan, etc. The only solution at the present time seems to be to use underscores or something equivalent in multi-word keywords, but this seems silly and ugly. I should either be able to search for a quoted keyword and have the search complete, or Lightroom should use the comma as a keyword separator in the Find dialogs in the same manner as it is used when adding keywords. My main reason for using Lightroom was to be able to use its database-like features for keywording and finding images based on keywords (and other attributes). Dealing with multi-word keywords should be a simple fix and it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
James Howe

I'm trying to build a smart collection so I'm limited to searching for 'Contains', 'Contains Words', 'Contains All', 'Start With', 'Ends With'. No matter which option I select, I end up getting images which don't match. I only want to see images which have the specific keyword 'University of Michigan' (a multi-word keyword without the primes). However, the search treats this as a search for images with the individual keywords of 'University' 'of' and 'Michigan' and therefore finds images which not only have the keyword 'University of Michigan', but also any image which has keywords of 'University', 'of' and 'Michigan' (the results vary depending on which search criteria I pick). The important thing is that there is no query that I can come up with which *only* finds those images with the specific, single keyword of 'University of Michigan'. If I change the keyword to be 'University_of_Michigan', I can find that quite easily. The problem is with the inconsistent way that Lightroom treats spaces in keywords. If I go to the keywords entry field, I can enter something like:
Foo, Bar, Keyword with Spaces, Baz
and this will add four keywords to the image. However, when I try to find or build a smart collection based on keyword values, if I use the keyword
'Keyword with Spaces', the search algorithm treats this as three keywords, not a single keyword. Depending on the type of search selected (Contains, Contains Words, Contains All), the search engine will look for images with the keywords 'Keyword' AND 'with' AND 'Spaces' or 'Keywords' OR 'with' OR 'Spaces', etc. I believe that Contains Words comes closest, but in addition to finding images with the keyword 'Keyword with Spaces', it will also find images with the keyword 'Keywords with Spaces and other stuff'. If I try to quote the phrase, the search engine won't find it because the keyword wasn't defined with quotes (or primes). All that is needed to fix this is to provide some mechanism which allows the user to indicate that a collection of words should be treated as a single keyword, not a group of keywords.

Keyword Meta Tag Text Box

I use Dreamweaver 8 and read there is a "text box" similar to
the one for description on the toolbar for adding keywords.
This was in the help section of Dreamweaver 8 as follows:
Setting Keywords properties
Many search-engine robots (programs that automatically browse
the web gathering information for search engines to index) read the
contents of the Keywords meta tag and use the information to index
your pages in their databases. Because some search engines limit
the number of keywords or characters they index, or ignore all
keywords if you go beyond the limit, it’s a good idea to use
just a few well-chosen keywords.
Enter your keywords, separated by commas, in the text box
labeled Keywords.
Where on the tool bar is this located or how do you get it on
the toolbar? I have searched but must be missing something.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Don
The Glass Cottage

That information is flawed. The major search engines (with
the possible
exception of Yahoo) do not use keywords at all.
Try INSERT | HTML > Head Tags > Meta Keywords.
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>I use Dreamweaver 8 and read there is a "text box"
similar to the one for
> description on the toolbar for adding keywords.
>
> This was in the help section of Dreamweaver 8 as
follows:
>
> Setting Keywords properties
>
> Many search-engine robots (programs that automatically
browse the web
> gathering information for search engines to index) read
the contents of
> the
> Keywords meta tag and use the information to index your
pages in their
> databases. Because some search engines limit the number
of keywords or
> characters they index, or ignore all keywords if you go
beyond the limit,
> it?s
> a good idea to use just a few well-chosen keywords.
>
> Enter your keywords, separated by commas, in the text
box labeled
> Keywords.
>
> Where on the tool bar is this located or how do you get
it on the toolbar?
> I
> have searched but must be missing something.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Don
>
http://glasscottage.net[b
>

Tags/keywords not recognized when importing photos

I am using Lightroom 1.3.1 and I am trying to set up a new catalog of all of my personal photos. I previously had used Adobe Photoshop Elements 5, then more recently Windows Live Photo Gallery to do all of my organization and tagging. Before making the jump to Lightroom, I wanted to get my photos organized before doing the initial import. So I organized them into folders by year/month/day. Then I imported them all in place into Lightroom. However, of about 4000 tagged photos Lightroom only imported the tags for about 1000 of them. If I take a photo with no keywords in Lightroom and look at it in Live Photo Gallery, with Microsoft's Photo Info tool, or using Photoshop's file info, I can see that tags. However, Lightroom doesn't show any keywords. With Photoshop file info I can see the keywords listed in the following places in the metadata: xap:Keywords, photoshop:keywords, MicrosoftPhoto:LastKeywordXMP, MicrosoftPhoto:LastKeywordIPTC, dc:subject. Looking at the metadata I can't see any difference between the photos that had their keywords imported and those that didn't. Where does Lightroom look for keywords? More importantly how can I get Lightroom to recognize the the keywords from all of these photos that I have already tagged? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for the information. I am running Windows Vista. When I look at the image properties in explorer, I can see that 'tags' field and the tags are present as expected. Any metadata that was used Elements has been written to the files. I can see the tags in the files' metadata. I have already added the "Treat '/' as a keyword separator" in Lightroom. That is working fine for the keywords that it recognizes.
Previously my files just had the default names from the camera and they were put in folder according to the date I imported them from the camera. Before importing them into Lightroom I reorganized my photos by the date the pictures were taken. I used Downloader Pro to organize them in folder by Year->Month->yyyy-mm-dd using the capture date. The file names were also renamed by date and time like: 'yyyy-mm-dd hh'mm'ss.jpg'. All of my photos have the exact same folder/name structure. I can look into a single folder and some of images have their tags imported and others don't. The pictures were taken at the same time, with the same camera, and moved and processed together. In Vista's explorer the tags show up on on all of the photos, but in Lightroom only some of them will have tags. It is bazaar, in some folders all of the images get their tags imported, but in most folders, none of them get imported. Then in a few folders there will just be one or two of the images that have their tags imported.
Any other ideas about the problem, or ideas on how to troubleshoot would be greatly appreciated.

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