Double / Triple copies of loops in loop browser.

This is probably really common occurance, but I haven't been able to find a thread on it here.
I have multiple copies of certain, but not all loops listed in the loop browser, when i use the loop browser search function.
If I just list the loops by category, or by instrument, they appear singularly. However, if I search for a loop, i get multiple copies listed.
Reindexing does not help.
Note:
I have checked the loop locations:
/ home / library / audio / apple loops /user loops/ (loop folder)
and
/ home library / audio / apple loops / user loops / single files /
and
/ root library / audio / apple loops / single files /
There is only one copy of the loops in question among all of those locations.
Any ideas?

I would do the following:
Trash the content of home/library/audio/apple loops index/ and the same in the root library. Restart the computer and then manually drag and drop your apple loops folders (default locations are in root and home libraries, audio folders) on the loops area in Logic arrange window. Perhaps this helps??? And if it doesn't, it means you have your loops doubled, I belive...
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http://www.bulletsandbones.com/GB/GBFAQ.html#reindex
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Do you really have only one copy of each? Do a Finder/Spotlight search. There are several places where the loops could show up:
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- the user Library/Audio folder
- the general Library/Application Support folder
- the User Library/Application Support folder
Did you install over an old version of GB? That might explain the duplicate loops. And the "single" loops that were either part of your old installation and not of GB3 or vice versa.
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4 exemple:
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choose it a tag and it 's done.don't forget to define the right signature key (if it's a musical region),and well place the locator!
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Also, I can't find the 're-index' option within the loop browser search option (right click brings down a list but the re-index option isn't there)
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*Library/Application Support/Garageband/Apple Loops:*
Apple Loops for Garageband
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1. Quit Logic and/or any other app that uses Apple Loops.
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1. Reindexing makes sure that every loop in my HD is in the loop Browser isnt that the case. I dont remember if i dragged all of them over the browser or not.
2. It seems to me ( and see no other options here ) that if i want to be able to peruse all of my loops and have them accessible i have to have the lib>audio>apple loops>folders of loops open so that i can choose those that are not being brought up in the browser and as you say have time signatures that are different?
how do i then bring up those no shows in the browser if they are not showing up ( acc to you )due to signature problems because they might be usable if edited?
3. i could check off favorites couldnt I and then have maybe 2000 loops to chose from. Aint this a kick in the ***?
Im trying to organize as best i can what loops i have on the HD
so that i can see them exactly organized and neatly in the browser, but APPLE has made this very very difficult i think.
i appreciate your time thoughts and forgive me for insisting on an answer here which i may not get.

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