Doubt in rebate agreements & rebate processing

Hello,
I have 1 question.
Can rebate agreements be used for Commission calculation? In rebate processing, can the Payer/sold-to party for the commission recipient be changed from the Customer to a customer defined partner for the pricing in a user exit or other programming change?
can someone please clarify my doubt.
Regards,
Radhika

Hi,
yes, we used rebate agreements in a previous project for the commission calculation for the sales reps. We have created one rebate agreement by customer and sales rep, whereas the sales rep was the rebate recipient. If I remember correctly, we have set up the sales reps as a separate account group with partner function ER (Employee Responsible). I think that we linked the SD customer master record with an HR mini-master record. However, I think you don't have to have the link to HR master data.
Regards
Abhijeet

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Rebate processing & assign provision account

Hi
When configure rebate processing ,account determination for rebates / assign G/L account / accounting key step we maintain table like below.
application/condtype/chartAcc/salsOrg/Actkey/GL acc/provision acc.
Here I have a doubt.what is the purpose of assign the provision account number
thanks&regards
sagar

Hi Sagar,
The provision account number is where the rebate amount from the invoices is posted to during the rebate period. It is posted with an approximate percentage as the precise percentage will only be known, when the agreement is settled. At the time of the settlement the actual sales is summed up and depending on the agreement details a percentage is found to calculate the final rebate amount. The credit note for the settlement will clear the provision account for the amount posted during the rebate period.
best regards
Michael

Purchase Rebate Process with Vendor - Material Group combination in SAP

Hi Guru's,
I have done with Purchase Rebate Process with Material in SAP by doing following steps,
Created Agreement Type with Material Rebate
Created Rebate Pricing Procedure
Created Schema Group, Vendor
Maintained Purchase Rebate Agreement via MEB1 and created a Purchase Order where I could able to view the Rebate condition type gets determined based on the rebate agreement which has been created for a specific material.
Now from experts I would like to know the Volume based rebate arrangements Purchase Rebate Process with Vendor - Material Group combination in SAP .
If required provide with detail steps explaining what configuration and master data to be in place to complete this process.
Following thread I got it from SCN.SAP forum,
http://scn.sap.com/thread/3663225
Where it has been discussed this type of requirement Purchase Rebate Process with Vendor - Material Group combination would be a GAP.
Kindly throw some ideas on this process to carryout from my end.
Regards,
Kumar.S

Experts,
Please respond if post is not clear then let me know.
Regards,
Kumar.S

Can u tell me waht r the steps involved in rebate processing

hi guru's this is suresh.advanced thanks for all gurus

Rebates Processs in SAP is divided into three components
1) Configuring Rebates
2) Setting Up Rebates
3) Managing rebate agreeeements and payments
Pre-requsiistes- Check the following:
1.The payer partner needs toi have the rebate field checked in the customer master on the sales area-billing doc tab.
2.The Billing type must be marked as relevant for rebates.
3.The Sales Organisation must be marked as relevant for rebates.
Condition Technique :
Rebates, use the condition technique, but distinguish themselves from pricing in applying to transactions over time, versus on a transaction basis. Rebates have their wn field catalog and their own condition table naming convention.So you could have two condition table "001" one for pricing and one for rebates, which could have different key fields. You need to use the technical names A001 For pricing and KOTe001 for rebates when you use the query type using transaction SE 16..
Use create access sequence (AS). Enter 1 in field category for rebate specific. AS after going thru the right path of maintaining access sequence for rebates.
The big difference between the rebate and the pricing access sequence is that there is no exclsuion flag available for rebate related AS. This means multiple tables for an access sequence can be aplied at the same time.
Rebate related condition types are identified by codnition class -C.
After defining and creating condition types for rebated include them in the pricing proceedure. The requirement should be 24 here which implies that the accruals are calculated on the basis of invoice/bill.
The other fields- alctyp and altcbv does not allow you to manipulate how a rebate is calculated. Also, remove the requiremnt 24, if u want to see reabtes at order time.
Now payment of rebates:
Payments can be maunal or in full settlement. When you do manual payments, it defines how much can be paid out during a partial settlemetn. You use partial settlement only when rebate agreement is defined for a full year but the paoyouts are supposed to happen on a monthly, quarterly or anyother specified period.
These accurals are based on sales volume and when they are posted billing is created int eh follwoing manner. Provision for accruals is debited and Sales revenue is credited. When rebate credit memo is created
Customer account/ is debited and
Accrual provision account is credited.
Also, please note that when rebates are created without dependent ona material but on customer/material you need to refer to a material for settlement.
With Compliment: Srini
I have this same problem found in:
http://www.sap-img.com/sap-sd/rebate-process-with-ref-to-so.htm
However, can somebody explain it as I have problem in understanding the link.
What exactly do you wish to know in Rebates? The total outline of the Rebate process or each and every step in the SAP system?
First of all rebates are more or less discounts which are offered to customers. The rebates are based on the volume of the business the customer does with you within a specified time. for eg if the customer agrees for Rs.1 Crore worth of business with u in 1 year, then you activate your rebate porocess. if at the end of the year the customer DOES achieve the target u offer him say 2/3/4 % whatever is decided. The rebates are passed on to the customer in the form of Credit notes.
The rebate can be given to the customer at one time or in installments also.
This is broadly the outline of the rebate process.
R.Sreeram
Note : I recomend you to study the theory part of why rebate and why not a discount.
This will help you understand better.
May be I can help you with rebate process.(IN -IMG)
1. define a rebate agreement type
2. define a condition type group
3. define a condition type and place this condition
Type in the pricing procedure.(REQUIREMENT=24)
ALSO IN THE PROCEDURE- ACCRUAL KEY = ERU
YOU ALSO HAVE TO DO THE ACCOUNT DETERMINATION FOR REBATES.
Once you have defined all the 3 and assignment starts.
Assign the agreement type to the condition type group
Assign the cond type group to the condition type.
Condition technique is also used in rebates.
REBATE ACTIVATION- IN CUSTOMER MASTER, SALES ORGANISATION AND FOR THE BILLING DOCUMENT.
After having done this please proceed to maintain the condition record for the rebates (transaction code-vbo1)
Note: if you maintain the requirement coloumn with the requirement as 24 - the rebate will be affected in the billing document and if you dont give the requirement as 24 your rebate will be affected in the sales order.
The rebate process is completed when you have created a credit memo to the customer.
The document type for the partial settlement is R3.
Please make sure you open two screens SO THAT YOU CAN COMPARE THE NEW ENTRIES WHAT EVER YOU'RE DEFINING WITH THAT OF THE STANDARDS or first you try with the standard condition type boo1, boo2
boo3 boo4.
AFTER YOU HAVE FINISHED A COMPLETE SALES CYCLE OF CREATION ORDER , DELIVERY AND BILLING.
GO TO THE CONDITION RECORD IN CHANGE MODE (VB02) AND SETTLE THE ACCOUNT PARTIALLY.
I hope this will be of any help to you.
Praveen
In a simple way,
1. First you need to create a Rebate agreement.
2. Create condition record for rebate giving the rebate rate and accrual rate.
3. when the rebate relevent billing doc is generated, the rebate and accruals are determined and posted in a seperate GL account as a noted item - amount to be settled. Also it gets copied in the rebate agreement.
4. create settlement run using credit memo request and then credit memo to settle this amount with the customer.
Source : SAP-IMG

Issue on Indirect Sales Rebate Processing

Hi Gurus,
I am working on Indirect Sales Rebate Processing in ECC 6.0, I got Struck at Updating of Indirect Sales info structure S961 at Transaction RBT_ENH_GEN where in background Billing Documents has to be generated, which is not happenning.
As this in High Priority, please someone help me in this regard.
Will be appreciated for an Immediate reponse.
Thanks in Advance
Raj

Hi Leo,
The scenario with coupons / points is managed in SAP CRM and is part of Loyalty Management:
/people/bhushan.khadpe/blog/2008/11/13/sap-crm-70-loyalty-management-high-volume-execution
I am sorry to say that the indirect sales rebate, extended or not, will not solve your need.
Indirect rebates are used to credit distributors based on sales done on third-party customers (the customers of the distributors). These sales will be registered in SAP using a "pendulum list" and indirect rebate agreement give credit based on indirect sales volume (these are proforma billing documents generated from the pendulum list data).
My understanding is that any company that wants to manage coupons / points natively in the SAP ERP has to program this functionality itself in the ERP or to interface SAP ERP with a specialized external application.
SAP recommended solution is to implement SAP CRM, but IMHO that is an overkill for many medium size companies.
I wish there would be a way to implement specific CRM functions natively in SAP ERP, like Trade Promotion Management or Points Management, so the Customer could stick with a single ERP / CRM system
Best Regards,
Franck

Rebate Processing - Value Difference -Verfication level and Sales Volume

Dear All ,
We are using standard rebate process - Customer Rebates and we have encountered the following issue .
1. The Rebate agreement was created on 01/12/2010 with validity from 01/12/2001 , valid through 31/03/2010.The Rebate recipient was not activated for Rebate in the month of DEC 2009 and was activated on 15/01/2010 . We have executed VBOF and found that the Accruals are calculated from 15/01/2010 till date which is 25,010 USD ( for the invoices which are created from 15/01/2010) but it is not taken into consideration of the invoices which are created in the month of December 2009.
We have checked and calculated manually the accruals which is amounting to 35,575 USD for the period ( 01/12/2009 to 14/01/2010) . This accrual amount is not updated for the agreement .
Can any one give inputs on this issue.
Thanks in advance .
Regards
Veera
Edited by: veera PV on Mar 6, 2010 11:07 AM
Dear All ,
I have executed the VBOF couple of times and the sales volume is updated correctly now - 51,277.20 USD . but when i selected the agreement and clicked on verfication level it is not showing up all the invoices and the value shown is 43,025.10 USD . There is difference of 8252.10.
Now the issue is how do i get all the invoices in the verfication level.
Can any one give inputs on this .
Thanks in advance to all of you.
Regards
Veera
Edited by: veera PV on Mar 6, 2010 11:08 AM

Hello,
please check this thred Re: VBOF Issue related to updating Old Invoices after activating Rebate Check.
Best regards,
Ivano.

Rebate processing conditions

I am evaluating implementing rebate processing at my company. I would like to know if rebate processing has any capability for the following...
Customer X has a rebate program for 1% if they purchase 50,000 units of a group of materials.
In order to be eligble for the 1% on the 50,000, Customer X's purchases must include at least 3000 units of a specific material.
Any way to do this inside of one rebate agreement? My thought is you could set up one agreeement for 47000 not including the specific material and another for 3000 units for the specific material. If the rebate agreement for the 3000 units is met, then decide to settle the one for the 47000?
This is a common program we want to be able to address through rebate processing so i want to ensure it is feasible.
thx

You can achieve this by Material Rebate based on Group of Materials.
A rebate group consists of materials to which you want to apply the same rebate. You can define rebate group in Customizing for Sales according to the need of the orgn. You can assign a material to a rebate group in the MMR: view- Sales, field- Rebate Grp. When you create a cond record, you must enter a settlement material.
Hope this can assist you.
Thanks & Regards
JP

Rebate process in Materials Management

Hi Experts,
I want to know the rebate process in Materials Management.Can somebdy help me with this or provide if any documents available.
We have a scenario that we have ana agreement with vendor that if we buy quantity of say 1000pcs in year he will provide us discount of 5%.
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Charudatta

Hi
The below link will help you
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/fd/45c1089d6411d189b60000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
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Extended Rebate Processing - Data flow in tables

Hi Gurus,
Can somebody help me understand how data flows through various tables in extended rebate processing. i.e. once a new condition record for a rebate agreement is created, in which table it is updated first? Once VBOF is executed, which are the tables taken as reference and which are the ones updated on execution.
Please explain wrt all concerned tables and info-structures like KONA,KONV,KONH,KONP,S136 & S469.
It'll be a great help if somebody could explain thoroughly.
Thanks & Regards.

Thanks Arun.
I understand now that to have the extended rebate functionality we have to activate the generic Business Function- EA-ISSE (Industry specific sales enhancement).
I am more interested in the Indirect sales functionality for which I understand we have to use the Pendulum List Indirect Sales component.
I have a situation where I am a producer and I have wholesalers who have end customers. The end customers may or may not belong to a corporation(an umberalla organization) .
I want to set rebates on the sales of the end customers. The sales details of the end customer would be given to me (producer) by the wholesaler. But the rebate payments, I (the producer) want to pay it out to the Wholesaler ( I understand the standard solution is to pay out to the end customer) with details of each end user rebates.
Do you have any pointers to how this could be acheived?

Extended Rebate Processing

Hi All,
Extended Rebate Processing functionality does not provide functionality to generate an advance payment (= partial settlement) for any amount from the rebate agreement.
We will need to be able to create a partial payment at the beginning of the period, without Accruals being created.
Within Extended (Periodic) Rebate Processing this is not possible; however this is possible within the classic rebate processing.
It should be possible to have the PAY button available again in the Rebate Agreement. This will allow the users to create an advance payment from the Extended Rebate Agreement.
Please let me know how to activate this.
Regards
Rajesh

Hi,
Go through the link below you will find configuration and function of extended rebate processing.
http://help.sap.com/bp_bblibrary/600/HTML/G64_BB_EN_US.htm
click on configuration guide link on Right, on the link given.
Hope this help.

Extended rebate processing - Rebate settlement

Hi there,
can someone please give some ideas on this one:
we are using extended rebate processing in ECC 6.0. We would want to be able to manually pay a customer out of a rebate agreement or change the amount of a settlement to the customer (either to less or more than the system has accrued for).
For some reason the option to manually settle is always blocked in my extended rebate agreements. Since the extended rebates do not create a credit memo request anymore but directly a credit memo I also see no option of changing the amount when partially settling the agreement.^
Does anyone know if the flexibility to manually settle and/or manipulate amounts in the partial settlement is not available in the extended processing?
Thanks
Kai

Hi,
With the usage of the enhanced rebate procedure the manual payment
is not possible any more.
Note 638974 describes the problem, that even though it should not
be possible any more, this options was still available on several
menu items but the result was not correct.
The solution of this problem as described in this note is NOT to
re-enable the manual payment. Instead the solution is to deactivate
this option in the remaining menu items.
For agreements, that do not use the enhanced rebate functionality
the manual payment is still available.
One additional important change for enhanced agreements is, that
instead of a credit memo request the credit memo is created directly.
On the other hand if you want to change the value for the credit note
itself then the note 515132 and the userexit LV69AFZZ could be used.
Regards,
Alex

How to activate Extended Rebate Processing in Customizing for billing?

sap gurus:
How to activate Extended Rebate Processing in Customizing for billing?

SAP Knowledge Base Article
1520390 - Activation of Enhanced Rebate Functionalities - IMG Customizing Transactions - SAP Menu
Version 1 Validity: 19.10.2010 - active
Language English
Symptom
Enhanced Rebate Functionality is not available and should be activated
In the customizing IMG (Transaction SPRO) the node for Extended Rebate with the relevant customizing transactions are not visible
The SAP Menu does not include the transactions for Extended Rebate
Environment Enterprise Function EA-ISE must be available in the system (visible in transaction SFW5).
Reproducing the Issue
Call transaction SPRO
Node Extended Rebate Processing is missing:
IMG
Sales and Distribution
   > Billing
        > Rebate Processing
             > .................
Resolution To activate the Extended Rebate Processing and make the node and customizing transactions visible proceed in the following way:
Call transaction SFW5
In the folder ENTERPRISE_EXTENSIONS choose the function EA-ISE
Activate this enterprise extension
Thereafter the menu path in SPRO for Extended Rebate Processing will be visible:
IMG
Sales and Distribution
   > Billing
        > Rebate Processing
            > Extended Rebate Processing
                        * Settings for Agreement Types
                        * Set up Variable Key for Rebate Settlement
                        * Check Variable Key for Rebate Settlement
                        * Activate Extended Rebate Processing
                        * Simulate And Execute Reorganization of Statistical Data
Furthermore the users will have the relevant transactions available in the SAP Menu:
SAP menu
> Logistics
     > Sales and Distribution
          > Billing
               > Rebate
                    > Extended Rebate Processing
                         * RBT_ENH_VB7 - Extended Rebate Settlement
                         * RBT_ENH_ACT - Update of Indirect Sales
                         * RBT_ENH_PLAN - Update of Indirect Planning Data
For futher infomation on the extended rebate process please refer to the following links of SAP help portal:
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/5a/5b9b3c0f4da40ee10000000a11405a/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/79/a5ee3c1f63a518e10000000a11405a/frameset.htm
Keywords
Extended rebate agreement, extended rebate processing, erweiterte Bonusabwicklung, Menü, Pfad nicht vorhanden, aktivieren, erweiterter Bonus, Bonusabsprache
Header Data
Released On
21.10.2010 08:01:20
Release Status
Released to Customer
Component
SD-BIL-RB-ENH Enhanced Rebates
Other Components
   SD-BIL-RB Rebate Processing
Priority
Normal
Category
How To
Product
Product
Product Version
SAP ERP Central Component
All versions
SAP R/3 Enterprise 4.7
All versions

Indirect sales with extended rebate processing

Hi Friends,
I am creating the indirect sales with extended rebate processing secnario. I have created the rebate agreement,created the requirement data,created the sales request and created the sales confirmation by manulaly data entry, then updating the indirect slaes system is through the error ther is no sales data.
so pls suggest me your valubale inpputs .
Thanks,
E.vasu.

Hi All,
I have done all required configuration for Extended Rebate Processing.
Additionally I have put all required data in step u201CCreating Sales Confirmation- Entering Data manuallyu201D. Here I have put name of material & its quantity that has been sold from wholesaler to its customer (Indirect Customer).
As I am not able to get indirect extended sales order & billing document number it wonu2019t be possible to update Info structure S136 & S469 (RBT_ENH_RMCSS469) as required for rebate basis.
I am facing error/issues at two places.
In Step: Updating sales data:
I have put Sales area, Wholesaler & clicked on Display only errors, so the expected result is that I should get Document number of indirect order. But I am not getting same. Please help.
In Step: Updating of Indirect sales:
I have put Month, sales area and I was suppose to get Indirect billing document number but I am getting message as u201CNO data selected for updateu201D.
Please let me know even I am missing some basic configuration.
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Tushar Gawande
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Rebate processes

sap gurus
pls clarify me about rebate processes and final settlement and manual accurulswith examples.

Dear Siva,
Final settlement
Use
When you carry out final settlement of a rebate agreement, the system automatically
calculates the rebate based on the sales volume statistics or the lump sum
deducts any previously paid rebates
It then creates a credit memo request, and proposes the end date of the agreement validity period as the billing date.
The system also reverses any accruals that have been posted.
Depending on Customizing, when the system creates a credit memo request, the document is automatically blocked for billing. After approving the credit memo request, the person responsible can remove the billing block. You can then create the final credit memo.
When you want to search for credit memo requests during sales order processing, you can use the matchcode F "Credit memo request for rebate".
You can carry out final settlement of rebate agreements
automatically
Manually
as a background task (in batch)
Settling Single Rebate Agreements
You can carry out settlement directly from within a rebate agreement.
Before you save the rebate agreement you can still carry out changes to the credit memo request:
The credit memo request is only saved when you save the rebate agreement.
Carrying out Final Settlement as a Background Task
If the volume of your sales rebate processing is high, you can collectively process rebate settlements as a background task.
The following reports are available:
RV15C001
RV15C002
Your system administrator can use these reports to generate a list of rebate agreements, based on various selection criteria, such as rebate recipient, status of the agreement, and so on.
Background processing can then be carried out later. I.e., after the regular posting periods.
After a list is generated, the rebate agreements can be analyzed or processed for payment.
For more information about settling rebates as a background task, see your system administrator.
Working with Manual Accruals
Use
Posting accruals manually can be useful in different situations such as:
Lump sum payments
Accruals correction
You can control at which time and for which amount the accruals should be posted.
You can build accruals for a particular condition record or reverse them in part or in full.
When you save the rebate agreement, the system will automatically create a credit memo request. The system uses this document to create a credit memo. When the credit memo is released, the accruals are posted to FI.
If you have posted accruals manually, but these have not been passed on to financial accounting, the manual accruals and manual payments in the rebate agreement are blocked.
I hope it will help you,
Regards,
Murali.

Scales in Rebate process

I want to be able to create a rebate agreement that will accrue the rebate costs on a scale basis. Meaning, to be able to accrue say 5% on the first $100,000 of sales to the customer, but when the customers sales have passed $100,000 then accrue say 8%.
I could not find the functionality to do the above, does anybody know what settings need to be done to enable this function.
Thanks,
suddu

Dear suddu
check the link for configuration
[Rebates configuration|http://www.erpgenie.com/publications/saptips/052005.pdf]
[Rebate Processing|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/14/10c162ca8d11d396ac00a0c9306794/frameset.htm]
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Doubt in rebate agreements & rebate processing

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