Doubts on Oracle Failsafe Shutdown Process

Hello
We have the following configuration in our place.
Two Node Windows Server 2003 Cluster. (Active/Passive Configuration)
Oracle 10.1 Home on Both the nodes.
The database server, datafiles, redo log files are on the shared disk.
Oracle Failsafe Manager 3.4.1 is running on both the nodes.
Now We want to shutdown the whole database and cluster for a migration purpose.We should the system and then SAN sync the image to another place and restart it there.So I need a procedure for clean shutdown and clean startup.By going the Failsafe Documentation and other articles in goggle,I have not got a clear idea about the shutdown process.
As per the documentation ,
For maintenance issues like cold back up ,The process to be followed is:
1.Take the database offline from Oracle Failsafe Manager and it will shutdown the database.
The questions I have is :
1)If I take down the database from Oracle Failsafe Manager on the Active Node,is there any chance that the database will start on the passive node due to failover.
2) Do I have to first shutdown the passive node or put a freeze between the communication link so that it does not failover.
3) Do I have to take the shared disks ,Network Adapters offline from the failsafe manager for a complete shutdown or will the Windows Machine shutdown takes care of it.
Also can someone just throw a brief overview on how to start up the same database on the other cluster.
Any suggestions would be helpful .
Thanks
Sashank

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The questions I have is :
1)If I take down the database from Oracle Failsafe Manager on the Active Node,is there any chance that the database will start on the passive node due to failover.
2) Do I have to first shutdown the passive node or put a freeze between the communication link so that it does not failover.
3) Do I have to take the shared disks ,Network Adapters offline from the failsafe manager for a complete shutdown or will the Windows Machine shutdown takes care of it.
Also can someone just throw a brief overview on how to start up the same database on the other cluster.
Any suggestions would be helpful .
Thanks
Sashank1- When you take it offline on Failsafe it won't come up on the other side till you bring it online.
2- no
3- again no
I could not get the last uestion but If you want to move resources to the other node it can be done via microsoft cluster services.
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32 13:21:56 > FS-10090: Rolling back Oracle Net changes on node CZVSOR3
33 13:21:59 FS-10489: CZVSOR3 : Completed rollback of operation
34 13:21:59 ** ERROR : FS-10495: Clusterwide rollback of the operation has been completed
35 13:21:59 Please check your Windows Application log using the Event Viewer for any additional errors
36 13:21:59 The clusterwide operation failed !
ANY IDEAS WHATS WRONG????????
Group has 2 SAN DEVICES K and L which i can move without any problems to node czvsor2 and back - but without the database.
Normally my First node CZVSOR1 with Oracle Group CZVSOC01 on it is not involved for i removed this node from the available nodes list in my new group CZVSOC2
DO i have to make K an L available from Node 1 CZVSOR1 ????
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Node3 with oracle Group 2 and database 2 managed to failover to node 2
PLEASE I NEED URGENT HELP
MANY MANY THANKS TO ALL!
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user448006

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==============
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============
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sincerely
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java weblogic.Admin -url localhost:8001 -password password -username
username SHUTDOWN
WebLogic is start and shutdown for each system module. All modules
use the exact same script for these two actions. Some of the modules
use Message Driven Beans and consequently, since these use JMS, a
JMSxxx.dat file is generated in the jms_store directory. As part of
the cleanup process the jms_store directory and all files in it are to
be deleted AFTER WebLogic shuts down.
The shutdown process works fine in all cases where JMS is not used and
in all cases where JMS IS used but there are NO message driven beans.
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down in a timely manner, sometimes not at all (no error messages are
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Can anyone shed some light on a definitive order of events during
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server being up? I know there is a ping utility for weblogic - should
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