Downgrade from OSX to OS9?
I currently have OSX 10.4.5 on my Powermac BW, but I'm trying to do a boot install of OS 9, I have both os 9.1, and OS 9.2.1, I do not have the restore disc, and I have tried holding C, which does nothing, as well as zapping pram, which causes OSX to fail to boot, I'd either like to install classic, or wipe the hard drive and just run OS9. Thanks in advance!
PowerMac BW G3 Mac OS X (10.4.5)
It sounds like a couple of things possibly.
A non-bootable DVD drive (unlikely as you got Tiger installed).
An OEM version of OS 9 rather than retail/universal.
You don't have a partition that doesn't have OS X?
How about a 2nd drive? Always good to have a backup drive; and, with B&W where booting external is only possible with SCSI. A PCI drive controller for 2nd drive (and better performance as well as large drive support) in either ATA or SATA interface.
My system will always find OS X if I let it (I don't even have OS 9 drivers).
Sounds like you need to shop for another drive. Why wipe Tiger? and that way you can have backup, OS 9 partition.
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Hi, I want to downgrade from OSX LEOPARD to OSX TIGER but I have a few questions regarding this. My iMac is originally from Sep 2007 it came preloaded with tiger. I have original install (2) tiger discs version 10.4.10. I want to know if it is safe and what are the necessary steps to do so. Also by downgrading im wondering if a lot of apps nowadays support tiger for example I have photoshop version 5 and 4 these are very important to me. One last question does anyone know of any reliable virus protection for mac that doesnt slow down your computer? because I have read that a lot of them do so. If anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate it! Here are the specs for my iMac
Model Name:
iMac
Model Identifier:
iMac7,1
Processor Name:
Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed:
2 GHz
Number Of Processors:
1
Total Number Of Cores:
2
L2 Cache:
4 MB
Memory:
2 GB
Bus Speed:
800 MHzMost of the time a perception of general slow performance is the result of installing third party junk alleged to speed up, "clean" or "optimize" your Mac, or to look for viruses that don't exist. Ideally you would know what you installed so you can uninstall it, but if you don't know or aren't sure there are techniques such as Safe Mode and creating a temporary user account to confirm that suspicion.
If you open Activity Monitor it may show a process, or processes, that occupy a lot of your system's time.
Slowness confined solely to web browser activity is often the result of an inexorable progress toward websites that demand ever more processor-intensive tasks. If your slow performance is strictly limited to web browsing, you might try disabling Flash by either uninstalling it, or use utilities such as ClickToFlash that allow you to control what Flash content gets loaded. Flash in itself is not inherently evil, but there is nothing to stop websites or the advertisers who pay for them from writing horrible Flash code that can do everything from hogging 100% of your CPU's time to causing random crashes. You can watch Activity Monitor as in the above to correlate these troublesome web pages with performance degradation.
You are correct; if your computer shipped with Tiger you may certainly revert to it. I forgot that Tiger was shipping on new Macs as recently as five years ago. To downgrade it would be necessary to completely erase your hard disk and boot with the Tiger installation DVD, followed by installing it anew. Such drastic measures are not necessary and you are unlikely to be satisfied with the results anyway.
Assuming your system is free of third party parasitic junk attached to OS X in an ill-conceived attempt to improve upon it, that your hard disk drive is sound and the boot volume has enough free space to work with, by far the best performance-enhancing improvement would be to add more memory. Buy as much as your computer can use and that you can afford. 2 GB is not that much any more.
Read the following for some recommended troubleshooting techniques from Apple:
General purpose Mac troubleshooting guide: Isolating issues in Mac OS X
Creating a temporary user to isolate user-specific problems: Isolating an issue by using another user account
Memory limitations: Using Activity Monitor to read System Memory and determine how much RAM is being used
Identifying resource hogs and other tips: Runaway applications can shorten battery runtime
Starting the computer in "safe mode": Mac OS X: What is Safe Boot, Safe Mode? -
Lots of problems in changeover from OSX to OS9
Hi,
I have a G4 bought in 2001. It operates fine in OS9, but I recently got broadband, which isn’t compatible with OS9. Therefore I had to start using OSX and I have had nothing but problems since. Here is the list of problems:
1. Internet Explorer regularly freezes or quits. I have tried to download both Safari and Firefox but my computer won’t open or install a ‘.dmg’ file. When I click on ‘get helper application’, a window opens to show my Internet Plug Ins folder, which is empty.
2. If I shut down OSX, then start up again, the computer appears to boot up correctly. However, if I shut down from OSX and restart in OS9, I get the message ‘your computer did not shut down properly’.
3. If I am in OS9 and select OSX as the start-up disk and click ‘Restart’, the computer shuts down instead of restarting. If I then push the start up button on the front of the tower, the computer begins to start up but then shuts down after about 30 secs.
4. If I am in OSX and it freezes and I am forced to start it up with the button on the front of the tower, I do not get the message ‘your computer did not shut down properly. Disk First Aid will repair'.
5. In OSX, Microsoft Word often freezes and I cannot exit the programme so I have to restart the computer forcibly.
6. I cannot print from OSX, only from OS9.
7. In OSX, in Outlook, if I attach a document from the Classic Environment to an e-mail, the recipient cannot open the attachment. I can move the document to the OSX desktop, but then I can’t print it without putting it back in the Classic Environment and going back to OS9 to print.
8. In OSX, the CD drive won’t close when I press the ‘close’ button. It does however close in OS9.
I would welcome urgent advice on how to handle these problems.
Many thanks, Suzie.
G4 Mac OS 9.2.xHi,
I have a G4 bought in 2001. It operates fine in OS9,
but I recently got broadband, which isn’t compatible
with OS9.
What kind of 'broadband'? Broadband should be compatible with OS 9. I know I used it when I had OS 9. What problems were you having.
Therefore I had to start using OSX
Which version of OS X? If you're using the version which shipped with your G4, that might be 10.0.x... which is Not Ready For Prime Time. In fact, 10.0.x is little more than a joke and is unusable. 10.1.x was at least usable, if slow; 10.2.x was a nice system. 10.3.x was much better, and 10.4.x better still.
I hope you have enough RAM. Running 10.1.x with less than 256 MB is not going to be enjoyable; ramp that up to at least 512 before trying 10.4.x.
and I
have had nothing but problems since. Here is the
list of problems:
1. Internet Explorer regularly freezes or quits.
MSIE on OS X isn't very good. Get Firefox, or, if you have the right version of OS X, Safari.
I
have tried to download both Safari and Firefox but my
computer won’t open or install a ‘.dmg’ file.
Save the file to disk, open it with DIsk Utility.
When I
click on ‘get helper application’, a window opens to
show my Internet Plug Ins folder, which is empty.
I suspect that you're using 10.0.x and are finding out why that version is NRFPT.
2. If I shut down OSX, then start up again, the
computer appears to boot up correctly. However, if I
shut down from OSX and restart in OS9, I get the
message ‘your computer did not shut down properly’.
I suspect you had Classic open, under 10.0.x, and didn't close it before shutting OS X down. This was not a good idea in 10.0.x.
3. If I am in OS9 and select OSX as the start-up
disk and click ‘Restart’, the computer shuts down
instead of restarting. If I then push the start up
button on the front of the tower, the computer begins
to start up but then shuts down after about 30 secs.
I'm not sure what that is, but I suspect 10.0.x is misbehaving.
4. If I am in OSX and it freezes and I am forced to
start it up with the button on the front of the
tower, I do not get the message ‘your computer did
not shut down properly. Disk First Aid will repair'.
You've got directory errors. Run Disk Utility or buy Disk Warrior and run that.
5. In OSX, Microsoft Word often freezes and I cannot
exit the programme so I have to restart the computer
forcibly.
Which version of Word? I suspect that you're using either 98 or 2001 under Classic. If that's the case, and you're running 10.0.x, it's not Word that's the problem, it's Classic, and the fix is to get a newer version of OS X.
6. I cannot print from OSX, only from OS9.
Which printer are you trying to use? And do you have the Printer Center set up?
7. In OSX, in Outlook, if I attach a document from
the Classic Environment to an e-mail, the recipient
cannot open the attachment. I can move the document
to the OSX desktop, but then I can’t print it without
putting it back in the Classic Environment and going
back to OS9 to print.
This wasn't clear. You should be able to have a doc open from OS X or Classic, no problem. And if you can print in OS 9, you should be able to print in Classic.
8. In OSX, the CD drive won’t close when I press the
‘close’ button. It does however close in OS9.
It shouldn't do that.
I would welcome urgent advice on how to handle these
problems.
Many thanks, Suzie.
G4 Mac OS 9.2.x -
Downgrade from OSX Server to NON_SERVER
Hi, upon recommendation of an Apple employee friend I bought the OSX server 2 years ago. I would like to downgrade to the non-server version. I currently run OS X 10.4.11 Server. I would like to be running the non-server OS. I have a 10.5 upgrade/install disk that I will use when I have a non-server OS to upgrade (but currently the upgrade will not allow me to upgrade from osx-server).
In the past 2 years I have added tons of software and configuration. To rebuild my machine from scratch may take a week and I still wont have all the settings I currently use and need. So I want to avoid a fresh install of the non-server OS.
Is there a way to do this? Whether following apple rules or perhaps just tweaking a file somewhere that makes the OS think its non-server? I am very comfortable editing files and using bash etc.
I would like to trick the OS into thinking it is non-server so that I can use my Leapord install disk to upgrade me to 10.5 non-server.
Any ideas here? Before I rebuild my entire system from scratch?That would likely work, but the OP wants to retain all his customization, and some of that will be in the (admin) user sandbox.
OP: what have you tried? Have you:
Bought a spare decent Firewire external drive (like a seagate), clone your existing OSXS install to it with carbon copy cloner or superduper, then experimented on the clone (like, try to upgrade it with the 10.5 installer, or try Antonio's suggestion but keep the user settings)? That's where I would start. You can reclone over and over again until you find a formula that works -- or exhaust all possibilities -- without risking your existing install.
And report back here with your results -- it may save someone else someday. -
How to downgrade from osx 10.10.3 to 10.10
I recently updated osx as part of the Yosemite beta program and it stopped my computer from being able to start up, having completed a temporary fix and removing myself from the beta program i want to downgrade as quickly as possible. Is there any way to do this?
Just stop using the startup drive you configured for the beta and use your drive which still has 10.10 on it. You did set up the beta on a new drive or partition as advised by Apple, didn't you?
If not, restore from the backup you made prior to starting the Beta program.
If you did neither, there is no way to return your system to 10.10.0 -
Should I downgrade from OSX 10.8.5 to OSX 10.4, then upgrade to 10.5 or 10.6 from there?
Ever since I upgraded to 10.8 earlier this year, my MBP seems to struggle with every application and process. Nothing operates smoothly, and Chrome, which I absolutely loved using prior, is significantly outperformed by safari. I can no longer view the 1080p video from my GoPro Hero 1 (which played flawlessly smooth on Snow leopard), start up and shut down times are embarrassing, and simply scrolling any page in any application lags. I've also performed a clean install, but to no avail.
I think that restoring my computer back to OSX 10.4, then upgrading to 10.5 or 10.6 might be the best solution for me.
Background on my 15" MBP that I purchased in August 2007.
-2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
-4 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
-NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT 256 MB
-160 GB
I backed my computer up with 10.4, upgraded to 10.5, using the same external drive to back everything up via Time Machine in 10.5, and from 10.5 I upgraded to 10.8 which I've also used the same external drive to create a Time machine back up for.
What should I do?I'm not opposed to doing that. I have a 10.6 disk that came included with my mothers iMac. Being that it isn't the retail version, would that work?
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Hello! So here are the specs.
I have an Early 2011 MacBook Pro, which came with OSX 10.6.6 by default.
I've lost my installer disk so I though I'd buy a retail one from the online Apple Store, and version 10.6.3 is what they sent me.
Simply running the install OSX app won't work, I get a msg saying:
-- You can't use this version of the application "Install Mac OS X" with this version of OS X. You have "Install Mac OS X" 23.1.1. --
So, I've tried booting from the new disk hoping to erase my current drive and install Snow Leopard, but no can do, I get 3 beeps and have to force shutdown (not RAM related, see below). Laptop works fine when I spare it this maneuver.
After some research I understand 2 things:
1. Only the original installer disk will let me restore factory settings (and I don't have it).
2. I can only install the default OSX (10.6.6) or a later version (that 10.6.3 DVD may not have the correct drivers for my system).
Are these conclusions right? If so, would the Apple Store replace my disk for an updated 10.6.6. one? If not, then what are my options?
Thank you!
References:
http://manuals.info.apple.com/MANUALS/1000/MA1172/en_US/Snow_Leopard_Installatio n_Instructions.pdf
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3910
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht2186
https://discussions.apple.com/message/19444837#19444837
https://discussions.apple.com/message/18085179#18085179
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1163160Phone AppleCare and order the computer's original disks.
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Could I still use the "find my mac"-app if I downgraded from OSX Lion to Snow Leopard?
In the beginning of 2012, I had the great misfortune of getting robbed and all my recording equipment was stolen, including my macbook pro 17" running on OSX Snow Leopard. I was able to buy a new macbook, same as the old one, but with the OSX Lion. It didn't take long before I noticed that it wasn't running as smooth as the previous OSX. At first I thougt it was the hardware; Steve Jobs had just died and I thought the people at Apple felt like they could finally ditch the high standards that were once enforced upon them and go Windows on our *****. But I soon learned it was the software. After re-purchasing my recording-software and trying and failing to install it, time after time, I got to a point where I just wanted to smash the whole thing and throw it out the window... Fortunately I managed to get a hold of myself. Now, I still want to get rid of the osx Lion and downgrade, but I don't want to have my stuff stolen again at some point and then find out that not only will Apple not pay out the insurance I payed for, but also I can't find my macbook anywhere, because I don't have this stupid application anymore because I downgraded. So, I was wondering if there's any chance to have the best of both worlds. (or the best of one world and then just the other/previous world) The only thing that's good about Lion is the "find my mac"-app. All the rest utterly ***** ***!!
Sincerelly,
a very disgruntled mac-user."Find my Mac" is an OS X Lion feature and is not available in Snow Leopard. So if you want Find My Mac in yor MacBook Pro you'll be stuck to OS X Lion.
I don't know what else to tell you other than consider buying Lo-Jack for laptops.
Hope this helps! -
The Mac Pro ships with 10.4.7, and that sadly is my main problem.
There are no 10.4.7 drivers (yet) for my M-audio firewire interface, but the 10.4.6 ones work fine on my MBP(OSX 10.4.6)...
So, would it be feasable to clone my MBP drive and install it onto the Mac Pro? or possibly booting from Target mode?
I'm guessing it won't work due to the newer architecture/Nvidia graphics etc., but it doesn't hurt to ask.
Have 5 hours to go before I get home to try it - but any thoughts would be appreciated.
Mac Pro 2.66/G5 Dual 2.0 Rev. B/MBP 1.83 Mac OS X (10.4.7)I have:
Firewire Solo
Mobile-Pre USB
MP
PPC Mini - 10.4.7
Firewire Solo - Not functional on MP, email to support says its 10.4.7. However, it works fine on the PPC Mini. Emailed support, got the message below - attempted it and failed.
However,
Mobile-Pre USB - Works with my guitar without issue. Funny thing is that it always had occasional issues on the PPC Mini or WinXP (many issues there). Guess that extra processing power really helps that sad USB 2.0 connection.
Unfortunately 10.4.7 is not currently supported. This M-audio devices is officially supported on Mac OS X 10.4.2, 10.4.3, 10.4.4, 10.4.5, and 10.4.6. We are working as quickly as possible to update our drivers for the just released 10.4.7 version, please check back for an update. We apologize for the inconvenience.
Some users have worked around this by uninstalling your M-Audio driver software, reinstalling with the latest version from our website, and then repair your disk permissions (see below).
Try this and let us know if you are still having problems.
UNINSTALLING
To uninstall the old driver, you should simply use the Uninstaller which was provided with the original driver download. If you can’t find the Uninstaller, you can use the one included with the latest driver version when you download it.
You can get the latest driver for your M-Audio device from here:
http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=support.drivers
Once you have downloaded the disk image, double-click to expand and mount it.
Look for the Uninstaller in the driver package and double-click it to run it.
REINSTALLING
After uninstalling your old M-Audio drivers, double-click the driver Installer to install the new version.
As mentioned already, you can get the latest driver for your M-Audio device from here:
http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=support.drivers
REPAIR DISK PERMISSIONS
After uninstalling and reinstalling the driver, repair your disk permissions to keep everything working properly.
On your OS X system drive, go in the Applications>Utilities folder and double-click the Disk Utility. Select your system boot volume on the left (the named drive), and then click the First Aid tab on the right and click the button on that page that says Repair Disk Permissions.
This will take a few minutes, it is a general maintenance routine for the OS, very important to ensure the proper functioning of MIDI and audio. -
How can I downgrade back to OSX Mountain Lion From OSX Mavericks without any Time Machines Backups
How do I downgrade from OSX Mavericks to OSX Mountain Lion. I do NOT have a Time Machine Backup and I dont want to lose all my files. Is there a way to downgrade WITHOUT a Time Machine Backup and still have all my files????
Since you need to erase your hard drive in order to downgrade, you would lose all your files. You cannot do what you want without erasing, so make a backup first.
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What is the best way to have access to OSX and OS9 from the same machine?
What is the best way to have access to OSX and OS9 from the same machine?
Do I need to partition the hard drive? Installed both Tiger and OS 9 on the G5 and it is having problems starting up properly.
G5 Mac OS X (10.4)And here is the prove for Edwin's message: Macintosh: Some Computers Only Start Up in Mac OS X
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I have newly purchased MAC PC with OSX 10.8.4, but now I want to downgrade from OS X 10.8.4 to 10.6. Is it possible
Virtual Machine information.
Parallels
VirtualBox
VM Fusion
Snow Leopard server for use with the above. Call 1-800-692-7753 and order part number MC588Z/A. Cost is $19.99 + sales tax and shipping.
Virtual Machine for 10.7/10.8 -
Iphoto problems after downgrade from Yosemite to OSX 10.8.5
After a successfull downgrade from Yosemite to 10.8.5 Mountain Lion my ( 'old Yosemite' ) iPhoto backup is not compatible with iPhoto reinstall.
Is there a way to repair or fix this problem?
My patience involving the dramatic Yosemite 'upgrade' is tested to the max I need to say.Welcome to Apple Support Communities
OS X Yosemite uses a newer iPhoto version than OS X Mountain Lion, so it is normal that you cannot use your iPhoto library in Mountain Lion again.
Maybe you will not like what I am going to tell you, but have you tried a Yosemite clean install instead of an upgrade? A lot of users have reported problems with the upgrade to Yosemite, and a clean installation fixes all these problems, because you are going to format the hard drive and install OS X Yosemite as new. I recommend you to try this. -
When printing from v10.1.3 or v9 from OSX Lion get Adobe Reader quit unexpectedly
When printing from v10.1.3 or v9 from OSX Lion get Adobe Reader quit unexpectedly
Click on the print button
get the Print screen
Click Print then get the error
Am able to print fine from other applications
Have tried uninstalling and restalling Adobe 10.1.3, downgrading to v9. reinstalling the printer driver.
Process: AdobeReader [2372]
Path: /Applications/Adobe Reader 9/Adobe Reader.app/Contents/MacOS/AdobeReader
Identifier: com.adobe.Reader
Version: 9.4.0 (9.4.0)
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [220]
Date/Time: 2012-07-22 18:19:40.579 +1000
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.7.4 (11E53)
Report Version: 9
Interval Since Last Report: 265926 sec
Crashes Since Last Report: 23
Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 30 sec
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 2
Anonymous UUID: 6710821A-4F63-46E6-AD7A-75FB91C7B394
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000014
VM Regions Near 0x14:
--> __PAGEZERO 0000000000000000-0000000000001000 [ 4K] ---/--- SM=NUL /Applications/Adobe Reader 9/Adobe Reader.app/Contents/MacOS/AdobeReader
__TEXT 0000000000001000-0000000000003000 [ 8K] r-x/rwx SM=COW /Applications/Adobe Reader 9/Adobe Reader.app/Contents/MacOS/AdobeReader
Application Specific Information:
objc[2372]: garbage collection is OFF
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 AdobeAGM 0x7e5f1824 PrintInstance::BuildEndPrintEvent() const + 84
1 AdobeAGM 0x7e5fa503 PrintInstance::NextPrintEvent() + 8157
2 AdobeAGM 0x7e5291f3 PrintSession::GetNextPrintEvent() + 151
3 AdobeAGM 0x7e529c60 _AGMPrintSessionGetNextPrintEventProc_GetNextPrintEvent(AGMPrintSession*) + 40
4 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x8077def8 0x7fe0a000 + 9912056
5 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x801d0749 AcroSecurityBailOutImpl + 2003525
6 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x801d08eb AcroSecurityBailOutImpl + 2003943
7 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x8004ffe0 AcroSecurityBailOutImpl + 428764
8 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x800511fd AcroSecurityBailOutImpl + 433401
9 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x7ffbaa3b CopiesPagesPDE_Prologue + 9523
10 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x7ffbadce CopiesPagesPDE_Prologue + 10438
11 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x7ffbb298 CopiesPagesPDE_Prologue + 11664
12 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x7ffcc2ca CopiesPagesPDE_Open + 50672
13 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x7ffcc495 CopiesPagesPDE_Open + 51131
14 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x800066c5 AcroSecurityBailOutImpl + 127425
15 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x80006852 AcroSecurityBailOutImpl + 127822
16 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x80006a9b AcroSecurityBailOutImpl + 128407
17 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x8018fe6e AcroSecurityBailOutImpl + 1739114
18 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x801ffb92 AcroSecurityBailOutImpl + 2197134
19 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x801ff925 AcroSecurityBailOutImpl + 2196513
20 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x802e19ac AcroSecurityBailOutImpl + 3122344
21 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x8001fa66 AcroSecurityBailOutImpl + 230754
22 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x80020e3a AcroSecurityBailOutImpl + 235830
23 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x80165925 AcroSecurityBailOutImpl + 1565729
24 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x8016346a AcroSecurityBailOutImpl + 1556326
25 com.apple.AppKit 0x93d05fc5 -[NSWindow sendEvent:] + 7533
26 com.apple.AppKit 0x93c9f163 -[NSApplication sendEvent:] + 4788
27 com.apple.AppKit 0x93c30d11 -[NSApplication run] + 1007
28 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x7fe0d28d RunAcrobat + 2557
29 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x7fe0c9ce RunAcrobat + 318
30 com.adobe.Reader 0x00002e8b start + 2371
31 com.adobe.Reader 0x0000264a start + 258
32 com.adobe.Reader 0x00002571 start + 41
Thread 1:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b0ac90a kevent + 10
1 libdispatch.dylib 0x98338e10 _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 969
2 libdispatch.dylib 0x9833785f _dispatch_mgr_thread + 53
Thread 2:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b0ac02e __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b99ccf _pthread_wqthread + 773
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9b6fe start_wqthread + 30
Thread 3:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b0ac02e __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b99ccf _pthread_wqthread + 773
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9b6fe start_wqthread + 30
Thread 4:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b0ac02e __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b99ccf _pthread_wqthread + 773
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9b6fe start_wqthread + 30
Thread 5:: WebCore: LocalStorage
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b0ab83e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9be21 _pthread_cond_wait + 827
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b4c42c pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 71
3 com.apple.JavaScriptCore 0x9c9a7e81 WTF::ThreadCondition::timedWait(WTF::Mutex&, double) + 81
4 com.apple.WebCore 0x91b97501 WTF::MessageQueue<WebCore::LocalStorageTask>::waitForMessage() + 135
5 com.apple.WebCore 0x91b97454 WebCore::LocalStorageThread::threadEntryPoint() + 74
6 com.apple.WebCore 0x91b973b1 WebCore::LocalStorageThread::threadEntryPointCallback(void*) + 17
7 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b97ed9 _pthread_start + 335
8 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9b6de thread_start + 34
Thread 6:: com.apple.NSURLConnectionLoader
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b0a9c22 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b0a91f6 mach_msg + 70
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x95c619da __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 170
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x95c6ab04 __CFRunLoopRun + 1428
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x95c6a1dc CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 332
5 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x95c6a088 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 120
6 com.apple.Foundation 0x9c5d80c4 +[NSURLConnection(NSURLConnectionReallyInternal) _resourceLoadLoop:] + 378
7 com.apple.Foundation 0x9c5cbe25 -[NSThread main] + 45
8 com.apple.Foundation 0x9c5cbdd5 __NSThread__main__ + 1582
9 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b97ed9 _pthread_start + 335
10 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9b6de thread_start + 34
Thread 7:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b0ab83e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9be21 _pthread_cond_wait + 827
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b4c42c pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 71
3 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9cd3de62 TSWaitOnCondition + 124
4 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9ccaf37d TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 136
5 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9cd1167f MPWaitOnQueue + 200
6 AdobeACE 0x020310bd 0x2000000 + 200893
7 AdobeACE 0x02030ab5 0x2000000 + 199349
8 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9cd125e0 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
9 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b97ed9 _pthread_start + 335
10 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9b6de thread_start + 34
Thread 8:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b0ab83e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9be21 _pthread_cond_wait + 827
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b4c42c pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 71
3 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9cd3de62 TSWaitOnCondition + 124
4 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9ccaf37d TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 136
5 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9cd1167f MPWaitOnQueue + 200
6 AdobeACE 0x020310bd 0x2000000 + 200893
7 AdobeACE 0x02030ab5 0x2000000 + 199349
8 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9cd125e0 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
9 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b97ed9 _pthread_start + 335
10 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9b6de thread_start + 34
Thread 9:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b0ab83e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9be21 _pthread_cond_wait + 827
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b4c42c pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 71
3 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9cd3de62 TSWaitOnCondition + 124
4 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9ccaf37d TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 136
5 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9cd1167f MPWaitOnQueue + 200
6 AdobeACE 0x020310bd 0x2000000 + 200893
7 AdobeACE 0x02030ab5 0x2000000 + 199349
8 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9cd125e0 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
9 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b97ed9 _pthread_start + 335
10 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9b6de thread_start + 34
Thread 10:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b0ab83e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9be21 _pthread_cond_wait + 827
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b4c42c pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 71
3 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9cd3de62 TSWaitOnCondition + 124
4 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9ccaf37d TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 136
5 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9cd1167f MPWaitOnQueue + 200
6 AdobeACE 0x020310bd 0x2000000 + 200893
7 AdobeACE 0x02030ab5 0x2000000 + 199349
8 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9cd125e0 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
9 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b97ed9 _pthread_start + 335
10 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9b6de thread_start + 34
Thread 11:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b0ab83e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9be21 _pthread_cond_wait + 827
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b4c42c pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 71
3 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9cd3de62 TSWaitOnCondition + 124
4 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9ccaf37d TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 136
5 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9cd1167f MPWaitOnQueue + 200
6 AdobeACE 0x020310bd 0x2000000 + 200893
7 AdobeACE 0x02030ab5 0x2000000 + 199349
8 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9cd125e0 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
9 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b97ed9 _pthread_start + 335
10 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9b6de thread_start + 34
Thread 12:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b0ab83e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9be21 _pthread_cond_wait + 827
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b4c42c pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 71
3 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9cd3de62 TSWaitOnCondition + 124
4 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9ccaf37d TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 136
5 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9cd1167f MPWaitOnQueue + 200
6 AdobeACE 0x020310bd 0x2000000 + 200893
7 AdobeACE 0x02030ab5 0x2000000 + 199349
8 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9cd125e0 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
9 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b97ed9 _pthread_start + 335
10 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9b6de thread_start + 34
Thread 13:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b0ab83e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9be21 _pthread_cond_wait + 827
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b4c42c pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 71
3 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9cd3de62 TSWaitOnCondition + 124
4 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9ccaf37d TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 136
5 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9cd1167f MPWaitOnQueue + 200
6 AdobeACE 0x020310bd 0x2000000 + 200893
7 AdobeACE 0x02030ab5 0x2000000 + 199349
8 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9cd125e0 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
9 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b97ed9 _pthread_start + 335
10 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9b6de thread_start + 34
Thread 14:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b0ab83e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9be78 _pthread_cond_wait + 914
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b4382a pthread_cond_wait + 48
3 AdobeAGM 0x7e4b0bc4 pthread_condition_base::Wait(pthread_scoped_lock_base&) + 26
4 AdobeAGM 0x7e4b0b1d AGMMessageQueueImpl::Pull() + 65
5 AdobeAGM 0x7e8a2b94 AGMWorkQueueTask::operator()() + 84
6 AdobeAGM 0x7e8a3e1f boost::function0<void, std::allocator<boost::function_base> >::operator()() const + 75
7 AdobeAGM 0x7e4b09e1 thread_proxy + 45
8 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b97ed9 _pthread_start + 335
9 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9b6de thread_start + 34
Thread 15:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b0ab83e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9be78 _pthread_cond_wait + 914
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b4382a pthread_cond_wait + 48
3 AdobeAGM 0x7e4b0bc4 pthread_condition_base::Wait(pthread_scoped_lock_base&) + 26
4 AdobeAGM 0x7e4b0b1d AGMMessageQueueImpl::Pull() + 65
5 AdobeAGM 0x7e8a2b94 AGMWorkQueueTask::operator()() + 84
6 AdobeAGM 0x7e8a3e1f boost::function0<void, std::allocator<boost::function_base> >::operator()() const + 75
7 AdobeAGM 0x7e4b09e1 thread_proxy + 45
8 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b97ed9 _pthread_start + 335
9 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9b6de thread_start + 34
Thread 16:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b0ab83e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9be78 _pthread_cond_wait + 914
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b4382a pthread_cond_wait + 48
3 AdobeAGM 0x7e4b0bc4 pthread_condition_base::Wait(pthread_scoped_lock_base&) + 26
4 AdobeAGM 0x7e4b0b1d AGMMessageQueueImpl::Pull() + 65
5 AdobeAGM 0x7e8a2b94 AGMWorkQueueTask::operator()() + 84
6 AdobeAGM 0x7e8a3e1f boost::function0<void, std::allocator<boost::function_base> >::operator()() const + 75
7 AdobeAGM 0x7e4b09e1 thread_proxy + 45
8 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b97ed9 _pthread_start + 335
9 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9b6de thread_start + 34
Thread 17:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b0ac02e __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b99ccf _pthread_wqthread + 773
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9b6fe start_wqthread + 30
Thread 18:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b0ac02e __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b99ccf _pthread_wqthread + 773
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9b6fe start_wqthread + 30
Thread 19:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b0ac02e __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b99ccf _pthread_wqthread + 773
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9b6fe start_wqthread + 30
Thread 20:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b0ac02e __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b99ccf _pthread_wqthread + 773
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9b6fe start_wqthread + 30
Thread 21:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b0ac02e __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b99ccf _pthread_wqthread + 773
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9b6fe start_wqthread + 30
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0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b0abbb2 __semwait_signal + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b4c7b9 nanosleep$UNIX2003 + 187
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b4c558 usleep$UNIX2003 + 60
3 com.apple.AppKit 0x93e79816 -[NSUIHeartBeat _heartBeatThread:] + 2399
4 com.apple.Foundation 0x9c5cbe25 -[NSThread main] + 45
5 com.apple.Foundation 0x9c5cbdd5 __NSThread__main__ + 1582
6 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b97ed9 _pthread_start + 335
7 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9b6de thread_start + 34
Thread 23:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b0ac90a kevent + 10
1 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x804ff1fe AcroSecurityBailOutImpl + 5340410
2 com.adobe.Acrobat.framework 0x8041adf7 AcroSecurityBailOutImpl + 4405491
3 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b97ed9 _pthread_start + 335
4 libsystem_c.dylib 0x97b9b6de thread_start + 34
Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0x7e5f17de ecx: 0x7e3f96ac edx: 0x00000001
edi: 0x7eac1420 esi: 0x01ab4228 ebp: 0xbfffdea8 esp: 0xbfffde60
ss: 0x00000023 efl: 0x00010286 eip: 0x7e5f1824 cs: 0x0000001b
ds: 0x00000023 es: 0x00000023 fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x0000000f
cr2: 0x00000014
Logical CPU: 0
Binary Images:
0x1000 - 0x2fff +com.adobe.Reader (9.4.0 - 9.4.0) <8CEEE461-DF9E-46F5-816E-71DE8564A551> /Applications/Adobe Reader 9/Adobe Reader.app/Contents/MacOS/AdobeReader
0x60000 - 0x61fff +com.adobe.eulaframework (??? - 1.0) <8AFCE794-4DCF-41B8-9D0F-30311D7BEB92> /Applications/Adobe Reader 9/Adobe Reader.app/Contents/Frameworks/EULA.framework/Versions/A/EULA
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Adobe Reader worked under the spare Admin account so I deleted that in case it was confusing the installer. I then rerpaired persmissions. I then re-installed Reader. Same problem "Internal Error"!!
So, I re-created another Admin account and opened Reader. No problem. After clicking accept licence it opened up with a question to make default or not. After this I hunted through every folder and found that Under 'User/Librarary/Application Support/Adobe' there was an Acrobat folder. When I checked the account I normally use there wasn't, and never was?? So I copied pasted a copy of the Acrobat folder into the same location on the non working account and all is fine.
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- Really not linking iTunes 11 , is it possible to downgrade, any answer would be extremly helpful!
Thanks
- Tom=Downgrading from iTunes 11 to iTunes 10.7=
Try activating the sidebar, menu bar, and status bar and see if this is close enough to the previous version to make you content. It is easier than downgrading and eventually you will be forced to run a newer iTunes unless you have an endless supply of the model computer you currently own.
You may be able to go back with Time Machine but this may involve restoring other items too (https://discussions.apple.com/message/20441404). Alternatively:
Back up your computer first, in case the unexpected happens.
Here's a step-by-step method and you may find it easier to follow than alternative methods I have posted below.
Downgrade iTunes 11 to iTunes 10.7 - http://www.emacconsulting.com/apple/itunes/downgrade-itunes-11-to-itunes-10-7/
If the above does not work, or you want to do it without Pacifist, or you want to know what is actually going on when downgrading, or you encounter error messages, here's more details:
Quit iTunes.
Get iTunes 10.7 from http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1576 or the direct download link at: http://appldnld.apple.com/iTunes10/041-7195.20120912.d3uzQ/iTunes10.7.dmg
Do a few preparatory steps by making sure all iTunes components are not running and cleaning old files. See https://discussions.apple.com/message/20475394. Do steps 3 and 4. Steps 6-8 may be also useful but I don't know if they are essential. Some of the other steps are not necessary, duplicate steps listed later in my post or are perhaps even unhelpful in the process.
Replace the iTunes 11 application with iTunes 10.7. Simply dragging the application to the trash may not work. Lion (OSX 10.7) and newer systems have iTunes integrated into the operating system and deleting is a bit more involved. Two ways to do this are:
1. (Easier) Use the shareware Pacifist utility (http://www.charlessoft.com/) to install iTunes 10.7 including all associated system files. Details at http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=16400819&postcount=6
2. (More work) Check this reference on how to delete the iTunes application itself:
Delete iTunes in Mac OS X 10.7 Lion - http://osxdaily.com/2011/09/13/delete-itunes-in-mac-os-x-10-7-lion/
After deleting the application there may be other files that need downgrading too. See the note about error -42408 at the end of this post. You may want to tuck these away somewhere safe until you have completed the installation of iTunes 10.7. I have not tested this but ideally if newer versions are not found then the installer will put in the old versions. This may include these files in /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/ which apparently get updated by iTunes 11:
AirTrafficHost.framework
CoreFP.framework
DeviceLink.framework
iTunesAccess.framework
MobileDevice.framework
After doing one of the two procedures above you will have to rescue the most recent old iTunes library from your iTunes > Previous Libraries folder. Rename it "iTunes Library.itl" and replace the existing one in the iTunes folder. A newer version of iTunes irreversibly updates your library file so you have to replace it with the old one or you will get an error message. Note, this will revert your library to the version at the time of the upgrade and you will have to update any changes made since. See:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/20401436 - turingtest2 11/2012 post on rebuilding empty/corrupt library from previous iTunes library file after upgrade/crash.
iTunes: How to re-create your iTunes library and playlists - http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1451
Other issues:
- https://discussions.apple.com/message/20432309 - solution to mobile devices saying they need to be restored after downgrading
- If you encounter error -42408:
iTunes: Advanced iTunes Store troubleshooting - http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3297 > Specific Conditions and Alert Messages: (Mac OS X / Windows) - including specific error codes.
Alternatively, check https://discussions.apple.com/message/20441424 which requires you have a Time Machine backup (though possibly if you remove the newer version of these files old ones may be installed with the iTunes 10.7 installer - untested). A variant of this is at: https://discussions.apple.com/message/20448184
- Persistent "Show in iTunes Store" arrows after downgrade - https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4567064
Send feedback to Apple telling them why your downgraded: http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunesapp.html
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