Downgrade Gnome 3.10 to 3.8 to use Gnome Flashback?

Do I have to downgrade to 3.10 to 3.8 to use Gnome Flashback?
According to this it says that it isn't supported by 3.10.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME_Flashback
If that is not possible, is there another way to get my desktop enviroment to look like it?
https://wiki.gnome.org/GnomeFlashback
I read here the problems that flashback has with version 3.10.
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-f … 00042.html
Last edited by Shining_KoW210 (2013-11-15 05:26:46)

Chazza wrote:
No you do not have to downgrade to 3.8 to run flashback but it will certainly feel much less broken on the 3.8 stack. What's meant in the wiki is that there are significant problems if you run the flashback desktop on the 3.10 stack (as was mentioned in the mailing list.) Flashback will run on 3.10, I've tried it myself but it doesn't run very well. The logout and shutdown dialogues won't work for instance. Desktop icons weren't working though I think that has been fixed now. Metacity doesn't know how to deal with the new titlebars in gnome apps yet so it leaves ugly black edges around the top corners. That kind of thing. It is possible to downgrade to 3.8 if you so wish.
Head to the this page: http://seblu.net/a/arm/
Download the packages and install them.
pacman -Q | grep -i 3.10
is a good place to start if you don't know what to downgrade. Bear in mind that you willl then have to edit pacman.conf and add the names of the downgraded packages to the ignorepkg section to ensure they're not upgraded by accident. Take care when downgrading because you could end up with conflicts and other similar problems.
Of course you'll have a much easier time with mate, xfce or gnome shell classic mode if the classic gnome like desktop is what you want but I guess you know that anyway. Be advised that the flashback packages in the AUR have been orphaned so there might be newer versions of gnome-panel etc. There isn't a 3.10 version yet though that's for certain.
Thanks for the advice! I think you're right, that seems like way too much work just to get it working. I'm looking into DWM, it's more similar to what I'm looking for than gnome classic or xfce, I've used both but they seem too, flashy for my tastes.

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ModeLine "768x576" 62.57 768 816 896 1024 576 577 580 611 -HSync +Vsync
# 800x600 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 63.60 kHz; pclk: 68.18 MHz
ModeLine "800x600" 68.18 800 848 936 1072 600 601 604 636 -HSync +Vsync
# 1024x768 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 81.40 kHz; pclk: 113.31 MHz
ModeLine "1024x768" 113.31 1024 1096 1208 1392 768 769 772 814 -HSync +Vsync
# 1152x864 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 53.70 kHz; pclk: 81.62 MHz
ModeLine "1152x864" 81.62 1152 1216 1336 1520 864 865 868 895 -HSync +Vsync
# 1152x864 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 77.10 kHz; pclk: 119.65 MHz
ModeLine "1152x864" 119.65 1152 1224 1352 1552 864 865 868 907 -HSync +Vsync
# 1152x864 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 91.50 kHz; pclk: 143.47 MHz
ModeLine "1152x864" 143.47 1152 1232 1360 1568 864 865 868 915 -HSync +Vsync
# 1280x960 @ 72.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 72.07 kHz; pclk: 124.54 MHz
ModeLine "1280x960" 124.54 1280 1368 1504 1728 960 961 964 1001 -HSync +Vsync
# 1280x960 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 75.15 kHz; pclk: 129.86 MHz
ModeLine "1280x960" 129.86 1280 1368 1504 1728 960 961 964 1002 -HSync +Vsync
# 1280x960 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 101.70 kHz; pclk: 178.99 MHz
ModeLine "1280x960" 178.99 1280 1376 1520 1760 960 961 964 1017 -HSync +Vsync
# 1280x1024 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 108.50 kHz; pclk: 190.96 MHz
ModeLine "1280x1024" 190.96 1280 1376 1520 1760 1024 1025 1028 1085 -HSync +Vsync
# 1400x1050 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 65.22 kHz; pclk: 122.61 MHz
ModeLine "1400x1050" 122.61 1400 1488 1640 1880 1050 1051 1054 1087 -HSync +Vsync
# 1400x1050 @ 72.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 78.77 kHz; pclk: 149.34 MHz
ModeLine "1400x1050" 149.34 1400 1496 1648 1896 1050 1051 1054 1094 -HSync +Vsync
# 1400x1050 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 82.20 kHz; pclk: 155.85 MHz
ModeLine "1400x1050" 155.85 1400 1496 1648 1896 1050 1051 1054 1096 -HSync +Vsync
# 1400x1050 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 93.76 kHz; pclk: 179.26 MHz
ModeLine "1400x1050" 179.26 1400 1504 1656 1912 1050 1051 1054 1103 -HSync +Vsync
# 1400x1050 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 111.20 kHz; pclk: 214.39 MHz
ModeLine "1400x1050" 214.39 1400 1512 1664 1928 1050 1051 1054 1112 -HSync +Vsync
# 1600x1200 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 127.10 kHz; pclk: 280.64 MHz
ModeLine "1600x1200" 280.64 1600 1728 1904 2208 1200 1201 1204 1271 -HSync +Vsync
EndSection
# Auto-generated by Archie mkxcfg
Section "Device"
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "fglrx"
VendorName "All"
BoardName "All"
Option "DRI" "true"
Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "on"
Option "VideoOverlay" "on"
Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultColorDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 1
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 4
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 32
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection
Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

Anyone know what this relates to?
from xorg log:
(EE) fglrx(0): === [swlDalHelperAddCustomizeMode] === CWDDEDI_DisplayGetSetMode$
(EE) fglrx(0): === [swlDalHelperAddCustomizeMode] === CWDDEDI_DisplayGetSetMode$
$etModeTimingOverride failed: 2
I'm sure I had that error before anyway. This black screen is killing me...it teases by showing the loading icons for 10 seconds[kde4] then just black.

Gnome 2.16 From testing

It seems to have killed HAl, because I can no longer mount devices. It complains something about freedesktop.org/DBUS.Service or something like that. I tried to downgrad GNOME and Hal + Gbus but have failed to do so. Any suggestions on what I should type in pacman to get everything back the way that it was?

twiistedkaos wrote:
Stalwart wrote:Make sure DBUS and HAL daemons successfully start!
I did do that, they didn't work with gnome 2.16 for some odd reason. So now I am in the process of trying to downgrade to get my hald and dbus working correctly again.
you must use the dbus and hal from testing as well.

Install Gnome 2

Hi there
thanks everyone for previous helps
I wanna install gnome 2 on Arch Linux but gnome 3 is in repo how can I install gnome 2 now ? is there any way to install it
I try to use downgrade script but this command dose not have any out put
$ downgrade gnome
Thank you all
Last edited by eMan (2011-08-17 18:37:47)

please search the forums. There are multiple threads asking this with the same answer.
Closing

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