Downgrade Messages in Mountain Lion

I recently upgraded to mountain lion yesterday, and i want to know if it is possible to downgrade Messages to iChat because it has been giving me many problems, and i also do not like the UI such as i cannot see my buddy list at all times.

Messages is basically iChat (Version 6.0.1). It's like iCal and Calendar. Same app, newer version. Unfortunately you won't be able to use the older iChat versions on Mountain Lion. I just pulled it out of a time machine backup to see if it would work for you, but it doesn't!

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Two attempts to send a message in Mountain Lion

Hi all. A question regarding messages in Mountain Lion. When I open up Messages and send a message to an imessage contact, it always takes two attempts to send the initial message. Any messages after that go instantly.
If I then send a message to a different imessage recipient once again it takes two attempts to send on the initial message.
Anyone having the same issues?

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So is it just me, or is Mavericks a bust? My MBP runs way hotter now. I don't have time for trial and error solutions. Is Apple offering a way to downgrade back to Mountain lion? I want out of Mavericks ASAP.

So is it just me, or is Mavericks a bust? My MBP runs much hotter since the upgrade. Why do I need ot sit around watching Activity Monitor, manually controlling my fans, and deleting extensions that I enjoy using. Don't even get me started on the Quicktime/Mov issues. I had none of these issues on Mountian Lion. Searching these forums, I see it's not just me. Why would Apple release a new system w/o peoperly testing it on MBPs?
I don't have time for trial and error solutions. I've tried the obvious ones. No help. Is Apple offering a way to downgrade back to Mountain lion? Or better yet, a Mavericks update that adresses these problems? As of now, I want out of Mavericks ASAP.
My processor is 2.6 GHz Intel Core i7.
8 GB 1600 MHZ DDR3 memory.
13inch MBP purchased ust over a year ago- 1-13.

jonny a wrote:
Nope, it'a not just me, see above. And yup- I'm backed up, But I don't own a Mountain lion install disc. That's why I was posting here in the first place. Thanks
Nobody owns a ML install disc - ML was only ever distributed as a download from the Mac App Store.
If you have a Time Machine backup, you can boot into recovery mode and restore from your Moutain Lion TM backup volume. If you have a system clone, then you can boot from the clone, and just clone ML back onto your internal drive.
Going back to your previous installation from a backup should be trivially simply if you have the backup in hand.

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Why is message on Mountain Lion defaulting to Facetime instead of the good old iChat style 4 way video conferencing.
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When I click on the messages icon it says; talk.google.com Password
Messages can’t log in to ........ ( my email address) because your login ID or password is incorrect.
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Can new macs be downgraded to run Mountain lion

I have a new imac can it be downgraded to run mountain lion?

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Messages on Mountain Lion not working

The iMessage Beta worked fine on Lion (except for the delays, sometimes, but hey, it's a beta). After upgrading to Mountain Lion, however, I'm unable to authenticate, send and receive messages.
I've found that running a PRAM reset (pressing a combination of keys when booting) does fix the problem, but it only works temporarily (until the next boot).
I already tried removing all plist-files, doesn't work. Every fix I found (that is: PRAM reset and booting in Safe-mode) only works one "session" (until I reboot).
When trying to sign in, it hangs for about a minute, and then says it "Could not sign in. Please check your network connection and try again.". I already tried turning off my WiFi, and it still hangs and gives this timeout error (so regardless of wether it's actually supposed to try to sign in).
My console shows the following errors:
When delivery fails (that is always, unless I booted in Safe-mode or performed a PRAM reset) and I get this red exclamation mark:
imagent: [Warning] FTMessageDelivery failed! Error (APSErrorDomain:1): Unable to send outgoing message to apsd: (ipc/send) invalid destination port (null)
This always shows up, about 20 times per actual iMessage I tried to send.
When signing in fails (that is always, unless I booted in Safe-mode or performed a PRAM reset)
imagent: [Warning] *** Listener ID: com.apple.dock.extra does not have capability: (Chats), not allowing request
Followed by a backtrace of the internal calls in imagent. However, this (both the backtrace and the warning above) do not always show up in my logs.
Based on the fact that it's working fine on my iPhone and iPad, and it's working fine too on the other Macs in the same WiFi network, I don't think it's a router firewall issue.
Based on the fact that I do not have any firewall (nor the built-in one) running, I don't think it's that it's a local firewall issue either. I already checked my hosts-file, nothing there (except for the default localhost routes).
Apple is working on better unified support in iOS 6, don't know if that solves my problem, but personally, I don't think that would really make sense (since it's definitely a local system issue).
I hope I provided you with enough information, but if you need more, don't hesitate to ask me .
I really hope you can point me to a permanent fix! Thanks in advance guys!

Hi,
I would have opened Messages > Preferences > Accounts and deactivated the iMessages account (Untick the Enable this account)
Then Quit Messages.
The Restart Messages and then restart the Account.
A Re-install would do it but is an awfully big hammer to use.
10:51 PM Sunday; August 26, 2012
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 iMac 2.5Ghz 5i 2011 (Lion 10.7.2)
 G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
 MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
 Mac OS X (10.6.8),
"Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Seriously

Messages on Mountain Lion: 2 separate accounts, but not working separately?

On my iMac, I've been using Messages to text others with Messages. I use my Apple ID email address for this.
Recently, another family member (who shares the computer) wanted to set up their own Messages account. I set it up (thinking I was doing it correctly). However, it appears that all messages are always using MY message id.
Does there have to be another apple ID for the second Message account?
While it gives the option to "start new messages using" the second account, when that person uses it, it appears that MY icon and account are being used. They always set it to use their message account to start messages. They set up their own icon and that's how we realized what is happening.
All the messages that go to that person, seem to be using MY account, my message "i.d." and email address.
I'm sure I did something wrong. When I disable my account, NO messages can come through.
Thoughts?
Thanks.

Hi,
No Problem.
You used to be able to post pics by HTML which meant you circumvented the need to click pics to see them active.
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7:47 PM Thursday; December 27, 2012
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 G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
 MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
 Mac OS X (10.6.8),
 Couple of iPhones and an iPad
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Can't screen share in messages osx mountain lion

Since upgrading to Mountain Lion, I have been unable to connect to someone else's computer via Messages and share their screen. I use this to help my parents with computer problems.
I have checked, and their "capabilities" do not show screen sharing, but I never had a problem with this before. Any suggestions?

Use the email form to contact Apple here > Apple - Support - Mac App Store - Contact Support

Is there a way to refresh Messages in Mountain Lion?

I have noticed a reoccurring issue in regards to the Messages app in Mountain Lion. It often times does not sync messages correctly. Or sometimes it has a long delay for receiving messages, and out of order. The messages app for ios has a pull down to refresh option, is there any similar feature for the Mac OS version? If there currently is how do you force a refresh?

HI,
At present the Out of Order iMessages is a "known Issue".
The current best "fix" is to relaunch the app after an sync period has caught up.
10:03 PM Saturday; April 27, 2013
 iMac 2.5Ghz 5i 2011 (Mountain Lion 10.8.3)
 G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
 MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
 Mac OS X (10.6.8),
 Couple of iPhones and an iPad
"Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Seriously

Need to delete an unsent message in Mountain Lion Mail

I attempted to send a mass e-mail in Mountain Lion mail to over 300 recipients. The application would not let me do so, so I broke the mailing list up into smaller lists and sent multiple e-mails, which worked. But now mail constantly notifies me that it cannot send the original e-mail to the multiple recipients. Is there any way to delete this message? It doesn't show up in the drafts or sent files, nor in the folders on the iCloud server.

Initially it wasn't showing up in drafts, but after quitting and restarting the application it appeared there and I was able to delete it. Thanks!

How are we able to sign out of Messages on Mountain Lion?

I want to sign out with the apple ID associated with Messages and sign in with a new one. Any Ideas?

HI all,
The Preferences are in the Message Menu (like most apps).
That is to say the current "Front" app gets listed next to the Apple Icon top left and this is a menu which you can click to drop down and Preferences is an option in there.
In Message Menu > Preferences > Accounts select the iMessages Account.
The default is that on first start up of Message it will ask you to create an iMessage Account using an Apple ID which then appears at the top of the list before it picks up on (what were) iChat Accounts names that are in System Preference > Mail, Contacts and Calendars.
However not everyone does this so it may not be top of the List (your can also re-order the by dragging the accounts about the list).
There is a Sign Out button in view if you are at OS X 10.8.2 (Messages Ver 7.0.1)
Use the Sign Out Button.
It will not hurt to also Untick the "Enable this Account" box.
Messages can then be restarted and will not have an active iMessage account.
9:19 PM Saturday; January 12, 2013
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 iMac 2.5Ghz 5i 2011 (Mountain Lion 10.8.2)
 G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
 MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
 Mac OS X (10.6.8),
 Couple of iPhones and an iPad
"Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Seriously

How to downgrade mavericks to mountain lion

How to downgrade mavericks to mountain lion

If you have the Mountain Lion installer or can download a copy from your Purchases page in App Store then simply run the installer application. Before you install select your target drive. From the Utilities menu select Disk Utility. Repartition and reformat your drive. Quit Disk Utility and continue with the installation of Mountain Lion.
Be sure to backup first because the downgrade will erase all your files.

Buddy List in Messages after Mountain Lion upgrade?

I can't seem to view my buddy list in Messages after I upgraded to Mountain Lion. I used to be able to view in iChat before the upgrade. Anybody know how?

Select Window/Buddies.

Can't receive iMessages via Messages on Mountain Lion? However, can send.

This seems to be intermittent. At some point Messages stops receiving iMessages. It stops even showing me the iMessages I send from Messages. They are in fact sent though. I can see them on my iPhone and iPad and have confirmed the recipient receives them.
If I remove my account and add it back that sometimes takes care of it. However, it's just a matter of time (usually a day or two) before it stops working again. This is really frustrating. I stopped using Me years ago and this is my first experience trusting Apple with a messaging service again. It's like returning to an abusive relationship! Please help!

Hi,
There is an issue that sometime crops up in both iChat and Messages where the individual IMs (or iMessages) don't show up in the Chat even though the chat is progression.
If this describes what is happening to you then go to the View Menu > Messages and change th Style choice to anything but Balloons. (Only change this when the Chat window is "Front")
Does this improve things ?
The Message Style are controlled by Plug-ins.
It is not clear what happens to the Balloon one but often people have the symptoms you describe.
Up to iChat 5 (in Snow Leopard) you could use the Install disk to reinstall just iChat and then re-update it by running the combo version of the last update (iChat and Messages updates are included in the OS X updates)
I would try Downloading and Installing the Combined version of the last OS X Update over what you have.
8:21 PM Wednesday; November 28, 2012
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 iMac 2.5Ghz 5i 2011 (Mountain Lion 10.8.2)
 G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
 MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
 Mac OS X (10.6.8),
 Couple of iPhones and an iPad
"Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Seriously

No Phone Number for messages on Mountain Lion

I updated to 10.8 mountain lion today. when i message people from my mac it comes up with my email address on the recipents iphone? is it possible to change this so it uses my mobile number instead?
Thanks

Only when iOS 6 comes out and gives you the ability to officially use your phone number for iMessages (instead of just for iPhones, as it is now).
So when iOS 6 comes out, this issue will resolved.
So yes, they are working on it and a fix is coming out soon.

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