Downgrade to Tiger

We are experiencing horrible problems with InDesign CS3 and Leopard. Seems the way round it is to downgrade to Tiger. Can anyone tell me if I can do that on one of the new Eight Core Macs and also a 2.8Ghz iMac.
Thanks

" check your original install disks that came with the machine. Whatever they are is as far back as you can go. And like he said... there's nothing you can do that will change that. "
Not quite. You can go back to whatever system was ever offered or your machine, not your particular instance. e.g. Lepord comes out, now all macs shipping come preinstalled with 10.5 and have a 10.5 install disc. But the week before those same machines were running Tiger and came with Tiger install discs. So they'll work if yoiu can find a set. But, most folks thinking about this likely are doing so to having run Tiger on their mac so have their own.
As for my own downgrade attempt, its run amuck for an unexpected reason. I saved (tolerated a disk failure in my backup system during the process) did an erase install of 10.4.10 from my install disc 1 (cutting out pretty much every option for extra stuff since I didn't get disc 2). Then pulled back my user dir and applications and so on.
All was fine, with 3rd party apps GoLIve CS2, Canvas X, MS Office 2004, Skype, VLC, cisco VPN. the killer was Apple mail and iPhoto. Mail 2.0 that comes with 10.4.10 worked and read/sent mail and processed rules correctly. But the prferencs form 3.0 (that comes with 10.5 are not readable by 2.0 and this seems quite dangerous despite basic functions seeming to be ok. Allowing a fresh prefs for 2.0 would mean inputting my account info again, which I was too lazy to do.
iPhoto is a bigger issue as iPhoto6 is not available and iPhoto 7 won't run under 10.5 . So I have no saved iPhoto that will work in a 10.4 env now, even if iPhoto 6 could read the photo lib after iPhoto 7 is done with it having run 10.5 .
So I gave up and reinstalled 10.5. My problems with it still presist but maybe with future updates....

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Mark:
Welcome to Apple Discussions.
You can try using Pacifist to extract Safari from your install disk and install it. You may then be able to upgrade it more easily, although I can't promise that for sure.
Unless you are absolutely wedded to Safari, I find Camino to be at least as good (I think better) as Safari, and looks almost identical, so that there should not be much of a learning curve. I also use Firefox and especially like it for the measure of security it provides.
Please do not hesitate to post back with further questions or comments.
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I would do a full install:
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SRXguy wrote:
I've had my new iMac since Jan and with all the problems I've experienced with trying to perform simple tasks such as playing a DVD and seeing the dreaded multi-colored bouncing ball to name one and reading about other peoples problems I'm curious if it's worth downgrading to Tiger? Any thoughts?
You cannot downgrade for many reasons, but obviously your computer has a problem and you should bring it in for service. It's new enough for free service. It is clearly defective on some level.
Reading about other people's problems has nothing to do with your own, they are neither catching nor infectious. You have a new machine with Leopard preinstalled. Have it serviced.

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Hi there
yes it has definately been a headache downgrading but to be honest for me personally totally worth it.
I started by using my original instal CDs and the computer just stopped halfway through the installation telling me OSX cant be installed on this machine" and then that was that - no working operating system and a 100 gig of data I had to try and salvage - 18 hours later I'm almost back to where I started with Leopard running, backing up my data then doing a complete re-partition, erase and clean install.
I have spent 48 hours getting my system back up and running the way I need it to in Tiger- I downgraded because there was no other way of using my Pro Tools software and I need to finish some recording projects but as the previous post mentions I would only down grade as a last resort as it is very much not like upgrading - I had to completely back all my data and re install certain software, re enter serial codes and licences - add all my music and movies back into their designated folders - it was a crazy couple of days with some late nights - my wife already thinks I can't be without my mac and now shes convinced!!!
So if its something you're thinking about - I understand your pain and please be aware whatever you going to do - whats the golden rule? Back-up , Back-up , Back- up!!!!

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Archive and install is only for OS X Client.
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I just purchased a mac mini 2.0ghz that came with Leopard.
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Welcome to Apple Discussions!
This issue was raised by another poster very recently (http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1497891&tstart=0). Typically Macs cannot be booted from MacOS versions which predated the release of the hardware, or subsequent firmware update perhaps, but since Leopard was not released until after the current Core 2 Duo minis, it goes without saying that at least some of these systems did in fact have Tiger installed.
If Apple have made no hardware or firmware changes to the mini (and it's a big if, because typically that information is not made available), then Tiger should install and run fine on your system, proving only that the Tiger installer you have is actually from a 'late 2007' Intel mini.
The only way you'll know is to insert the Tiger installer you have, and boot the system holding the C key down (you will need a wired USB keyboard which is NOT one of the new aluminium type). If the system boots, then you should be able to do an install. Bear in mind that you will almost certainly get an error stating you cannot install that version of MacOS on the system because it will detect that you have a later version of MacOS already installed than on the install disk. That's normal. You can get around that by clicking the 'options' button on the installer and selecting 'erase and install', which wipes the hard drive and installs MacOS.
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So my old IMAC G5 (17in 512MB ram running Panther 10.3.9) recently had service at the apple store to replace the motherboard and the power supply. As a courtesy, they installed Tiger 10.4.11 when my computer shipped with disks for Panther 10.3.5.
While running the software updater, the OS update errored out and wouldn't restart from the apple menu. I had no choice but to do a cold restart which I knew would be bad. Now the computer boots past the gray screen with the turny gear and then the OS screen loads but the load bar doesn't load.
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Hi Karen, and a warm welcome to the forums!
Don't run the Panther's Disk Utility on the Tiger HDD, unless you want to erase things and go back to Panther.
Tough without the Install disc, but some things to try...
Does it boot to Single User Mode, CMD+s keys at bootup, if so try...
/sbin/fsck -fy
Repeat until it shows no errors fixed.
(Space between fsck AND -fy important).
Resolve startup issues and perform disk maintenance with Disk Utility and fsck...
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106214
Tough without the Tiger Disk problems, but try fsck...
To use fsck, you must run it from the command line. Unlike using your mouse to open an application to do something, you'll need to type a text command at the prompt (#) to tell fsck what to do. The Terminal application (/Applications/Utilities) and single-user mode are two examples of command-line interfaces in which you can type such commands. To use fsck:
1. Start up your computer in single-user mode to reach the command line. Hold CMD+s keys down at bootup. Note: If necessary, perform a forced restart as described in the Emergency Troubleshooting Handbook that came with your computer. On desktop computers, you can do this by pressing the reset/interrupt button (if there is one) or holding down the power button for several seconds. On portable computers, simultaneously press the Command-Control-power keys. If your portable computer doesn't restart with this method, you may need to reset the Power Manager.
2. At the command-line prompt, type /sbin/fsck -fy
(SPACE between fsck AND -fy important)
3. Press Return. fsck will go through five "phases" and then return information about your disk's use and fragmentation. Once it finishes, it'll display this message if no issue is found: 
The volume (nameofvolume) appears to be OK  If fsck found issues and has altered, repaired, or fixed anything, it will display this message: *** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED ***   Important: If this message appears, repeat the fsck command you typed in step 2 until fsck tells you that your volume appears to be OK (first-pass repairs may uncover additional issues, so this is a normal thing to do).
4. When fsck reports that your volume is OK, type reboot at the prompt and then press Return.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106214
Then Safe Boot from the HD, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, reboot when it completes.

Downgrading from tiger to 10.3.9. best way to do this ?

hello !
just got a new g5 dual 2.3 (not core) and i dont want anything to do with tiger ! (running lots of software that does not play nice with tigers..)
what is the best way to downgrade to 10.3.9 ?
thanks !

Hi csw, to "downgrade" to OS 10.3.9 you must first erase your entire drive, then install 10.3.x from the install disk and update to 10.3.9 with the 10.3.9 Stand Alone Combo Update
Do not use the disks that shipped with another Mac as these disks are model specific but rather the full retail Panther install disks.
-mj
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Downgrading from Tiger to Panther

I installed Tiger on an old Powerbook about six months ago. Since then, it has been very noisy, and always seems to be gasping for life. The old powerbook is 867 mhz with about 640 ram -- not ideal specs for Tiger, I guess. My question then is -- how do I downgrade to Panther? Do I need to completely wipe everything off the computer before putting in the Panther discs? If anybody has any experience with downgrading, it would be great to know. Thanks.

You're welcome.
For quite a while though, I had been running it at less than
1 GB of disc space.
Copied from Problems from insufficient RAM and free hard disk space.
As a general rule of thumb: if the Available space on your Mac OS X startup disk is less than 5 GB, it is time to free some disk space. We suggest 5 GB as an absolute minimum as it generally requires that much free space to perform an Archive and Install of Mac OS X and still preserve some free space for VM swap files. However, more free space is better.
Although your Mac's specifications are plenty adequate for Tiger, this noise and potential hardware problem might be a coincidence that you are blaming on Tiger. Although most computer hardware can last a long time (especially Macs which is a factor in Apple's annual market share percentage for all computers sold since they generally don't need to be replaced as often as PCs), they don't last forever. It isn't a matter of if but when your hard drive has a partial or complete failure and although most don't experience a processor failure, it can occur.
Did a Hardware Test CD ship with this Mac when purchased? If so, I would boot the computer from the Hardware Test CD and run the Extended Tests to rule out a potential hardware problem.

IMac G4 / "Downgrading" to Tiger from Leopard / Installing(?) OS 9/Classic

Hey guys, I have an old iMac G4 (1.0 GHz, 17") that I bought used - it's in great shape, but it has been upgraded to Leopard 10.5.8 and I don't have the original discs. I got the computer because I have several programs I'd like to run via OS 9 "Classic" mode (mostly for nostalgia's sake). I have the following questions:
1. Is it possible to somehow "downgrade" the computer to Tiger 10.4.11 using a full retail disc? I am perfectly willing to wipe the entire machine - there is nothing essential on it.
2. If that is possible, would I then need to find a full retail copy of OS 9 for Classic mode to run, or is this built-in/included in the full version of 10.4?
3. If none of the above are possible (or practical), are there legitimate, stable emulators(?) out there that I can download/purchase to run old applications that require OS 9 on the G4 and/or a more modern Intel-based iMac? If so, could you recommend some?
Thanks so much for reading all that - I look forward to your responses!

Just erase the HD & install Tiger using the retail installer. After you install the base 10.4.x, update to the final Tiger version 10.4.11. Here's the link for the 10.4.11 combo update http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24901?viewlocale=en_US
If you just want to run classic mode while booted in Tiger, just copy the System Folder containing OS 9.2.1 or 9.2.1 from another Mac & transfer to your iMac. OS 9 is not included on the Tiger installer.
 Cheers, Tom

Downgrade to Tiger with new hard drive?

So, here's my situation:
I've had my black macbook for just over a year and last week the drive randomly died on me. This is my first mac so I was quite upset. Anyway, I recently bought a new drive and the guy at the store offered to install Leopard for free (I had previously been on Tiger), to which I of course agreed.
Turns out that I highly dislike Leopard and would now like to downgrade. If I install a completely new drive, can I use my Tiger CDs that originally shipped with my macbook?
Any input would be appreciated.

Yes, you can install all the original software from the gray installer discs that came with the computer. Boot from the Installer Disc One. Proceed to the point where you select a target disk. Select your hard drive and click on the Options button. Select the top option - Erase and Install - then click on the OK button. Follow instructions to complete the installation.
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Downgrading both Tiger and EFI Firmware update

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