Downgrading Zen Touch Firmw

I recently upgraded to the latest firmware for the Zen Touch. Now, for reasons tech related, I need to downgrade the firmware but have no idea how to. My old software, or the old firmware installer, won't recognize my player.
I've already gone into rescue mode and clicked on reformat, clean disk, and remove firmware.
Help?

Windows Media Player 0 uses MP3 (ID3) tags, yes. What exactly are you trying to do? Although I don't use WMP very often.
You can also just drag and drop the files in Windows Explorer to the player to copy.
You can also use MediaSource, but must download the Creative Software Suite for PlaysForSure-enabled Creative Zen Touch Players.

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Problems with the new Zen Touch Firmw

I'm getting the opposite of the problems other users I read about have with the new firmware: I DON'T want to use MediaSource further but my computer doesn't recognise my Zen Touch as an external hard disk (or Audio Player or anything else I can just drag and drop my music). MediaPlayer is recognising it and on my fathers computer it aso worked.
What should also be said: Right after installing the new firmware it worked but one day later my computer denied doing the same thing as the day before...
I'm quite desperate and I hope you can help me soon.

somebody help me.....just doaloading the latest zen touch firmware and Bang....computer crashed, and the fimware that was on the zen deleted...now i can't update no kind of firmware...sys the there?s no device, but in my computer says that exists one zen...

Where is my zen touch firmw

I've been waiting patiently but 3 upgrades for the micro and none for the touch wtf come on please creative throw us touch users a frickin bone.

You and the rest of us Zen Touch users. I wish they'd at least tell us when they plan on getting it out.

Where is the Zen Touch firmwa

Zen Touch users are still here you know...

LeecherX wrote:
Heh, I think he was referring to a new firmware, the one that has been promised to us from Creative for the past 3 months. (With MTP support, additional features, etc)
Yep im wondering that too. Its starting to make me feel like us Zen Touch users are being left in the dust as it seems creative has their priority with the micro and not the touch. They even show this with the little images like this all over the creative site but not one for the touch
[img"]http://images.americas.creative.com/images/menuads/leftnav_chicklet_upgrade2___6.gif">

JHTTP/Notmad with New Zen Touch Firmw

Does notmad or any other program like jhhtp can do the http/webserver thing with the new firmware?Message Edited by lsd_us3r on -02-2005 02:4 AM

No they dont. The Zen Touch uses the MTP interface and doesn't use the Creative Zen drivers which those programs relied on. So when they are open it will tell you that the device is not connected.
RedChair should update Notmad soon, possibly in a few weeks time or sooner as they already have Duebox which support MTP for the Dell DJ's to go by so it shouldn't be hard for them to take what they did in Duebox and use it in Notmad.
JHTTP uses the Creative driver as a means of communicating with the Touch and since the new PFS firmware doesn't use the Zen driver it will not work.
Existing programs which do not require an update, but may need to download a plugin automatically, are Windows Media Player 0, Musicmatch 0+, and Real Player 0.5. WMP does not need any plugins to download. MM and Real Player will need to download a plugin but this is done within the program and is complete in a matter of seconds (about 300kb download if I can remember correctly).
The Zen plugin for Winamp will also no longer recognize the PlaysForSure Zen Touch.
The Zen Touch will also not work with Linux or Mac. XNJB for Mac does not support MTP as stated on its website, which will be updated soon to include the same message as the Zen Micro and other players have.
You are limiting yourself to a few select programs made by the large companies or those who have the money, like Red Chair, to use until third party or open source companies make something. And its been nearly a year now since the MTP players were released and I have yet to see many open source or free program by a small company be created to use, despite Microsoft releasing the MTP Porting Kit to make things a little easier for people to make a program which works. I have only seen one: Media Monkey, currently in a beta stage but it works at least with MTP players.Message Edited by DM on -02-2005 09:54 AM

Kindly help me with my zen touch firmw

Hii have zen touch, i made a mistake and tried to upgrade my zen touch firmware and i have media player instead of 0, so my zen now dont have any firmware, i removed the media player from my pc but i cant run the firmware upgrade unless there is a initial firmware installed on my zen, now my zen is on the recovry mode only.?kindly provide me with the original zen touch firmware.?i'm from iraq so i dont think that i can send my zen to Creative company in order to make a service to it.?i cant li've with out my zen, please provide me with a link for the original firmware

hidetoshi,
Try running Cleanup option in the player Rescue mode first.
Jason

Lost Zen Touch Firmw

I followed the procedure to update my 20gb Zen Touch Firmware from version .0.03 to the latest PlayForSure version exactly as given in the update details. The software locked up during the procedure so now I appear to have no firmware at all on the Zen and the PC reports that the Zen is not connected. How on earth do I recover the situation?

....but I can't load any firmware - firmware upgrade says that player is not connected. I've found similar problem in here, but for now this method can't fix that problem with my player.
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=dap&message.id=32309&query.id=369 95#M32309

Downgrading Zen Micro Firmw

How can I downgrade the Zen Micro firmware from V2 to the last version of its firmware? V2 is getting very annoying and I really am considering that I want to do this unless a new firmware comes out.
Also, will the downgrade erase all the data on my Zen Micro?Message Edited by rmccabe96 on 0-04-2005 0:37 AMMessage Edited by rmccabe96 on 0-04-2005 0:37 AM

rmccabe96,
You just need to download the firmware update labelled as PDE to change it back. Please do a backup of your files as all data will be deleted from the player when doing the firmware updates.
Jason

Suggestion for next zen touch firmw

could you change it so that hitting the random button on the player cycles through the various play modes? only thing i find annoying with the interface.

Sounds good but the best thing to get is a moveable disc so you don't need all drivers to transer data!

Zen Touch: problems starting, touchpad, new firmw

This is a description, in chronological order, of the issues I have had with the Creative Zen Touch player.
. Bought player, charged exactly as described and player would not get past Zen Touch screen. Tried everything without success, had player swapped by **bleep** Smith.
2. WMA and data files added to new player without any problems. Players seems to work well.
3. More files added, but I started receiving an error when trying to copy files to the player from the computer. It seems that the player requires significant power to talk to the computer, this problem was more prevalent on a computer with USB .. A full battery charge will work but this will be drained quickly, so the best bet is to plug the player into the mains while it is docked with the computer. This should be added to the manual.
4. Player seems to work well from that time till the past week.
5. Installed newest firmware a week or more ago.
6. During the past week there was one day when the touchpad would not work properly. This problem was that moving between items becamse very cumbersome. I would move to a selection, but when I lifted my finger, the selection would jump two places lower. If I just touched the touchpad, the selection would jump two places lower. This problem rectified itself a day later.
7. Tried to start player as per normal but it would not start. Used reset buton, player started and had at least two thirds of battery (ie I guess that the problem starting was not battery related).
8. The next day, the same problem occurs, but reset would not work. Tried many means of starting player, until plugging into mains. Player starts and shuts down as per normal within a short period of time. Waiting significantly longer and the problem starting the player will arise.
9. Went to special menu on player and cleaned up player then rebooted. Player seems to work.
0. Next day player will not start. Tried pressing and holding down the start button for a long time, pressing many times in a short period, using reset button, using reset with play/pause button. Eventually tried mains, which brought the Creative logo onto the screen with no backlight, player did not even try to charge itself (ie flashing led on start/shutdown switch). I left player plugged into the mains and came back to find it charging. After this, the player started.
. Later in the day, I tried unsuccesfully to start player without success, using all possible tricks as mentioned. Went to inspect player a while later and it had was playing.
2. Now I have found that if I do not actually perform a shutdown and the player switches itself off using the idle settings, it will start up more easily, but not the first time. It seems that the touchpad problem (read above) has returned, but not as bad as before, in conjunction with the player being slightly easier to start (up to 5 attempts at pressing start).
Theories:
- When player is shut down it stays in a quick start mode for a period of time. During this time, if player is started, it will quickly start up and begin playing. After this time, a procedure automatically changes so that a more full startup is required during the next start-up, eg parking hard dri've or something else.
- When a player is shutdown from idle, a different shutdown happens, allowing easier startup later.
- The player in question is having difficulty starting from this second mode.
- Start/Stop button not jammed or working. Unlikely because I can shut down using the button
- Player not receiving startup message. Possible, but unlikely because reset does not work and theory .
- Battery not strong enough to perform initial startup? Feasible option given that the only time the player could start was when plugged into mains. However, player does have 2/3 of life left, which does not make any sense, unless the battery indicator is faulty. Fully charging the battery did not make a difference. Thus, max output of battery may have diminished.
- Hard dri've faulty. I am not hearing any hard dri've sounds when attempting a startup, so this is unlikely, since once player is started, everything works.
- New firmware is problematic. Explains sudden change in player's working. However, when I went to downgrade the firmware it said that the files may be corrupted by going back a version, yet to test.
- New firmware requires a hard disk format to work properly. Was this fully tested by Creative before release? Ie, did they put 0 gig of music on a Touch, then upgrade the firmware and see if the player continues to work correctly for a reasonable period?
- Player is a first time release with unironed bugs trying to capture the overflow from iPod, and we are the testers.
To Creative,
I am reasonably upset by this turn of events. I chose the Creative player over the iPod because of the battery life, reported music quality, ability to play more formats and the added storage. However, I would prefer a more durable player to what I appear to have in my possession. I believe I have given a reasonable description of the player and its problems, which should assist, unless the problem is already known. Please advise me of my options Creative.

Slats325 wrote:
Number 6 has turned out to be my electronic albatross. I have attempted every concept that I have read on this board: wiped down the keypad with a towel, damp cloth, bought a plastic case in an attempt to ward off static electricity, reset the unit, cleaned up the hard dri've, etc.. The fact remains that the unit jumps when it wants to. Very disconcerting. I have decided that since Creative is well aware of the issue and is maintaining corporate silence, that I should just cut my losses and buy an iPod. Tested one at an Apple store last night and was impressed with the control and functionality of their click wheel. It is a real shame as I truly think this Zen Touch was a cool idea but has consistently lacked support and follow up by Creative.
Haha remember that poem...rhyme of the ancient mariner...good to see other cultured fellows...
anyways I too have been haveing the jump problem. I've gotten somewhat accustomed to it, but I simply can't wish I had an iPod....its control is so much better. My friend said that this was how the iPod was at first, but then it got better. Now whether this was a software problem (I hope so) or an actual hardware issue (I'm going to be ticked if they don't replace it), I don't know. They better rectify it.
I wrote them a huge, uber persuasi've, rhetorically packed essay about why they must fix this problem if they wish to ever be on the same playing field as apple.
and I never got a reply.
so we'll see what happens. they better fix it.

Zen Touch original Firmw

I've heard several times that the original firmware is better than the new one...that it has a better sound etc.
Is this true? And is this firmware the .00.06 one?
I downgraded because of these statements...but I don't know if they are true.

penguinking3 wrote:
don't think that there would be better sound, but the old firmware has the customizable startup screen, the new firmware messed the startup screen up.
The sound is better. I can assure you. With SOUND I mean the sound of the User EQ. It is lightyears better than the user eq of the new firmware. And this is very important for a lot of users. For me this was the desici've reason to downgrade. I was about to return the zen Touch, because it sounded bad (it came with the new firmware). I could make the difference without needing to have a direct comparison. I just listened to a poor audio quality from the user EQ for a period of time and was thinking about returning the player when I found the original firmware and downgraded to it.
As to the customisable start up screen... I do not really care. I do not look at it at all.

Zen Touch: How to edit multiple songs artists and genres at once with new firmwa

With the old firmware I was able to do that with Nomad Explorer. But with the V2 firmware, I cannot use the Nomad Explorer anymore, and Media Source Organizer only alows to edit one track at once. Zen Touch Explorer also does not allow me to do that.
I tried to use Windows Media Player 0 and it worked, but after I closed the program and started it again, all my edits at the Library were gone. If I edit the library and sync to my Zen Touch will it apply what I edited on the library or will it keep the original ID3 tag from the song? How to make the modification permanent to the MP3 ID3 tag on the PC?
I think creative should allow edition of multiple songs with Zen Touch Explorer on the same way Nomad Explorer used to do with firmware V.

I haven't seen a program which does batch editing for MTP devices. Real Player does allow you to edit the ID3 tags of songs on the player, but one at a time.
With most music programs when you change an ID tag on your computer it doesn't update on the player, so you would have to delete it from the player first then retransfer it, or find a program which edits the tags on the player such as Real Player.
The issue is most likely speed, it will take awhile to do batch editing on the player so that could be a reason why programs dont support it..

Zen Touch - New Firmw

Hi!
99 percent of your Zen (Touch) Customers are waiting for a new firmware (that allows to use the zen as an external HD and shows the clocktime somewhere, and a lot more). So here is my question: Is a new firmware in development (if yes, when will it be published?) or is a new firmware planed at all?
Greets Robby

Please use search, this topic has been discussed many times.
A new firmware is coming, we don't know exactly when.
It won't give dri've letter support, but it will give Microsoft's MTP support.

Zen Touch with no Firmw

Ok my computer crashed everytime I connected my Zen Touch. It had worked great before for many years. but ok. I decided it probably was the Firmware so I restarted my MP3-player in recovery mode and deleted the firmware. guess what? I couldn't reinstall any firmware since my comp doesn't recognize my player
I use all of the newest applications and drivers on my comp.
/edit forgot some info about my computer
it's a Dell Dimension 8400 with Windows XP ProfessionalMessage Edited by karlozkiller on 0-0-2006 0:33 PM

To get the player detected now you need to go into rescue mode (which it sounds like it's doing anyway), choose reload OS/firmware to erase the firmware and prepare the player (the firmware is already erased anyway). Then you need to run the firmware update from the PC.
This is dependent on the player having been detected properly by the PC though, so you need to check in Device Manager when you connect it to see if it's listed there without error and with a driver version.

Zen Touch: upgraded firmw

Hello,
I'm experiencing a problem (which a lot of people have, I see...).
yesterday I upgraded the firmware to the latest(2. or something), and the pc program said: player rebooting. Then I saw my Zen Touch going into recovery mode.
There everything stopped..
I tried the Reload OS option, but when I start the upgrade firmware exe, the program can't find the MP3...
Can I solve this? When i'm in recovery mode I see a v0.0.0 firmware
But when i'm in Recovery mode, and I connect it to the pc, my pc recognizes it.(new hardware: first creative zen, and then mtp device or somehting--> then it asks for drivers, but they won't install as the mtp device hasn't got a function or something...)
What I've tried:
. If you have Windows Media Player uninstall it and reboot
2. Uninstall the WMP Runtime format from add/remove programs ( you may have to check the "show updates" box) and reboot
3. With the Zen Touch connected, go to Device Manager and uninstall it and then unplug the USB cable.
4. Uninstall ALL Creative software including the Zen drivers and then Reboot
5. From Device Manager, uninstall ALL USB root hubs and reboot
6. Plug in the Zen and wait for windows to detect it. In my case windows showed it as "Creative Zen" and then changed it to "MTP Device."
7. Run the firmware update again. It should go ahead and update now.
Help plz, creative email support doesn't give any help. They say I only got year warranty, but in the EU they must give 2 years of warranty..

I got this from email support:
. Uninstall all creative software & drivers 2. If you have this installed then uninstall Media Player and Media Player runtime (will require a reboot for each thing). This is done by going to add/remove programs and uninstalling (this will put your pc back to wmp0).
3. Re-install the Zen Driver from the creative website and reboot
4, Plug Zen in.
5, Make sure you have the firmware update ready, run it but don't click the language bit yet), leave the mouse hovering over your language selection.
6. On the Zen- select "reload OS"
7. As soon as it flashes up "reload new firmware now via USB" click the language button 8. Tada, now the pc should find it and allow you to re-load the firmware. (it may take a few attempts) 9. Once complete, click close and restart the pc. Everything should now be fine.
0. once you are happy you can re-install WMP and it will work fine.
But I guess this is the standard one?

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