Download & Save Reader and Flash, not just installation 'pointers'

How can Adobe Reader and Flash be downloaded and saved?  Reader XI is 36.1 megs, and Flash is 15.6.  The Web site's Download page only allows downloading of installation 'pointer' or access files (or whatever the right term is).  They're only about 970K each.  I need to use a high-speed Internet connection to download and save the actual full installation files so they can be copied and then installed on machines that DON'T have high-speed connections.  It's impossible to install the programs via a dial-up connection:  all you get is 'cannot connect to a reliable source', after a long delay.  Helpful answers only, please... no snide 'You oughta bring that computer into the 21st Century' -type remarks.

You can use the full offline Reader installer from
http://get.adobe.com/reader/enterprise/
I understand there is a similar installer for Flash, buth I don't know where to get it. You may find the proper URL by looking in this forum; I recall seeing it posted here.

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