Drag from iPhoto to Aperture

When in Aperture, I open my iPhoto window and drag and drop photos from iPhoto to Aperture. I would like the files copied into Aperture (rather than keeping the files in iPhoto and merely reference in Aperture). How do I make sure the files are copied into Aperture (so the master file is in Aperture)?

This is all helpful. When I said I opened the iPhoto window, I meant that when in Aperture I open the iPhoto browser. So, I take it that if I have a RAW in iPhoto that I have made edits to, when I drag and drop from the iPhoto browser then (1) I'll get both the original RAW and the modified version as a jpeg and (2) the file will be copied into Aperture as the master (managed), so if I delete the photo in iPhoto I will still be able to work on it in Aperture.
For me that creates a nice workflow, as I can shoot RAW, download into iPhoto, sort through and drop into Aperture (from the iPhoto browser) the ones (including original RAW files) I want to keep and work on further (even after doing some preliminary adjustments in iPhoto), then delete and/or move to an external storage device the images I downloaded into iPhoto (given that with RAW I would otherwise quickly consume my laptop harddrive.) See any issues?

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I have Iphoto library in Aperture. Can I move the projects from iPhoto to aperture project by dragging?

I have Iphoto library in Apeture. Can I move the projects from iPhoto to aperture project by dragging (within the apeture program)? Is this making a duplicate of all the photos? It seems to work?? It then leaves my Iphoto library in apeture empty. I would like to do this just to reorganize the photos between the two. I feel that I may have doubles and would like all pictures of one year in same project in Aperture instead of going between both.

Tell us more, please. I am not quite sure, what you want to do and how you are using Aperture and iPhoto?
Which versions of Aperture and iPhoto are you using?
Do you have separate photo libraries for Aperture and iPhoto, or are you opening your iPhoto libraries in Aperture?
I have Iphoto library in Apeture.
Did you import an iPhoto library into Aperture? And now you are seeing a section "iPhoto Library" in the Aperture projects list in the Inspector?
Events and albums you imported from iPhoto (Import > Library > Some iPhoto Library) will be imported as Aperture projects and albums, and they will behave exactly as other Aperture projects and albums.
Can I move the projects from iPhoto to aperture project by dragging (within the aperture program)? Is this making a duplicate of all the photos? It seems to work?? It then leaves my Iphoto library in apeture empty.
You can drag images from any project in Aperture to other projects and that will move (not duplicate) the images and all its versions to that project. And when you drag all images from the project to another project, the remaining project will be empty and can be deleted. (Caution: Photos that you have hidden in iPhoto will not be visible in Aperture. If you are not sure, if you have hidden photos, open the library again in iPhoto and unhide all photos).
I feel that I may have doubles and would like all pictures of one year in same project in Aperture instead of going between both.
There should be no problem with moving all photos from the same years to the same projects. You can also drag projects in "Projects" view on top of each other. That will merge them.
You could also define smart albums in Aperture to search for images taken at a specific period of time:
File > New > Smart album:
Then, in the Smart Settings HUD, click "Add Rule" and add a Date or Calendar rule.
For example, to find all images taken in 2010, use a rule "Date > Capture Year is > 2010"
To search for Photos taken at a specific date or at several dates, use a "calendar" rule. This way, you do nat have to type the date, but can pick it from a mini calendar.

Dragging image selection from iphoto browser Aperture hangs

Wanting to change from IPhoto to Aperture for my Photo library and wanting to be a bit more organised i tried (as a test to begin with) dragging 50 images into a particular folder in Aperture 2.1.4 from the iphoto browser. At this time it has been working 5 hours. Activity Monitor shows a continuos but variable activity, i also see the importing indicator on Aperture indicating activity
I suppose i can force Quit but will it destroy those photos but that would leave me with the question as to why its not working
Len

That's a good question. I just checked the camera and it does auto-rotate when I'm viewing images in the playback mode on the camera. Do you think that affects the import? I noticed that it makes two copies of all images beyond the first one imported. In other words, rotated or not, the first image I drag from iPhoto Browser will import as an Original (just one instance), yet the following ones will always be two images. I just drag from iPhoto Browser to the bottom panel of the Split View and I get two images.
Thanks for your help,
Charles

Importing photos from iPhoto to Aperture

Importing from cd, Nikon camera, and cf memory card to Aperture Library is working well for me; but importing from iPhoto is troublesome.
If I import from the iPhoto Library (a Library that has always seemed unnecessarily complex to me), there is neither rhyme nor reason to the import. If I import from within the open iPhoto program, everything comes out badged--even when I send the information to the Aperture Library.
Does anyone have a preferred way of importing albums and smart albums from iPhoto to Aperture?
Do you think it might be best to simply leave what is on iPhoto there, and start fresh with new photos in Aperture?
Thanks for your input,
Dennis
G5 Mac OS X (10.4.8)

I tried importing iPhoto ONCE. Ugh.
After deleting it (how arcane are rolls when Aperture
allows much better control), I then used reference
iPhoto library. Same issue with structure of course,
but at least it no longer duplicated space.
I then used Aperture's speed at selecting to
determine what I wanted to import into Aperture. I
then created my project and folder structure in
Aperture and drag/dropped my selected images to my
target project. Then I killed off the iPhoto
reference.
G.
Thanks, David, your response helps me feel somewhat less foolish/incompetent.
I had actually made peace with iPhoto5, using a combination of albums and smart albums,after disliking all the previous versions. Now, I just want iPhoto out of the way.
Last night I imported all iPhoto material into
Aperture (rolls, ugh!!). In addition, I set up two special albums for prized family photos.
After looking it over again this morning and reading your thoughts, I think that I will keep only the two special albums (from iPhoto) in Aperture, leave in iPhoto all the pictures that started out there, and backup the iPhoto pics on external hard drive. And never put anything else in iPhoto.
Once again, thanks for your helpful thoughts.
Dennis
G5 Mac OS X (10.4.8)

External edits (PS CS 6) do not transfer from iPhoto to Aperture

I am sharing my main Aperture libary between Aperture and iPhoto. It works well, only external edits are problematic, when done while browsing the library in iPhoto.
When I open the library in iPhoto and edit a jpeg photo in Photoshop CS6, I can see clearly the edited version in the browser, for example, after applying the oil-paint effect in CS6.
But in Aperture the edits do not show: After switching from iPhoto to Aperture the externally edited image is still showing the original version, no indication of an external edit in the badges, no new version generated.
But when I drag the preview from the browser, the preview is showing the edits done in Photoshop CS6.
I suspect, because iPhoto is not creating a new quasi master like Aperture, and the external edits are witten to the preview of the edited version, the only way to access the external iPhoto edits will be by exporting the preview.
I tried this, because I wanted to avoid the creation of tiff or psd files as quasi masters, when doing external edits on jpegs, but when the edits are invisible in Aperture it will be no great help. Now, is that a bug or a feature?
Aperture 3.5.1, iPhoto 9.5.1, PS CS6

So, to clarify, what's happening is that the Thumbnails are not updating to match the changes made in Photoshop?
Where is your Library? On your start-up disk? On an External? If on an External, what format is that?
This might be a form of corruption, try Back Up and try rebuild the library: hold down the command and option (or alt) keys while launching iPhoto. Use the resulting dialogue to rebuild.
Maybe I need to reset the Preferences?
Perhaps? Try trash the com.apple.iPhoto.plist file from the HD/Users/ Your Name / library / preferences folder. (Remember you'll need to reset your User options afterwards. These include minor settings like the window colour and so on. Note: If you've moved your library you'll need to point iPhoto at it again.)
*What's the plist file?*
For new users: Every application on your Mac has an accompanying plist file. It records certain User choices. For instance, in your favourite Word Processor it remembers your choice of Default Font, on your Web Browser is remembers things like your choice of Home Page. It even recalls what windows you had open last if your app allows you to pick up from where you left off last. The iPhoto plist file remembers things like the location of the Library, your choice of background colour, whether you are running a Referenced or Managed Library, what preferences you have for autosplitting events and so on. Trashing the plist file forces the app to generate a new one on the next launch, and this restores things to the Factory Defaults. Hence, if you've changed any of these things you'll need to reset them. If you haven't, then no bother. Trashing the plist file is Mac troubleshooting 101.
Is it because I a have accumulated about 5,000 images in my library and the program is maxing out?
iPhoto 09 is good for a 250,000 images so you've got a little headroom yet...
Regards
TD

Will iWeb work with Aperture 3 if I move from iPhoto to Aperture?

I currently use iPhoto, and have an iWeb site. Is there any reason that iWeb and my published site would not continue to work if I import all of my iPhoto library into Aperture 3 and then stop using iPhoto? I am considering moving from iPhoto to Aperture. Thanks!

You're welcome bobio.
I assume you are talking about the sidebar, and if so I don't know the answer to that one. Your Events get converted to Projects which are actually more flexible than Events in iPhoto. A Project contains all of the pictures from your event, but they can also contain Multiple Albums and Folders and Sub-Folders. My website has shots of things I've grilled or smoked arranged by categories: Beef, Pork, Lamb etc. So my iPhoto side bar was manually sorted to reflect the same folder structure I had in iWeb's side bar. Once my import was complete, I created folders again and dragged my new Projects(formerly Events) into the new folders. I just looked and there a sort by pop-up but it has only choices of "by kind" (Projects, Albums etc.) or "Manual". So if they don't come in that way you are going to have to manually sort them in chronological order. But the main window that displays the thumbnails of the Projects can be sorted chronologically. So if you need to sort the sidebar, display the thumbnails by date and then this will help you with the order you will need to create in the sidebar by dragging the Projects around.
Once you have made absolutely 110 percent sure your photos were imported successfully, I would delete the iPhoto library. You could always play it extra safe and export it to a DVD(s). You should keep the iPhoto app around if you use the calendars or cards features. At this time Aperture only does Books. I do a calendar every year. This year I exported the photos I wished to use out of Aperture and imported them into iPhoto to make the calendar.
The other thing you may want to consider is what to do about edits you've made in iPhoto. One reason I switched to Aperture was to save disk space. For photos that originated in Aperture, there is one copy of the photo in it's library-this is called a Master. When you do an edit it is called a Version. Aperture keeps a text file with a list of instructions for what to do to that photo to accomplish your edit for this Version. So you can make lots of Versions of a photo and make lots of edits and the library size doesn't grow much at all, because there is still just one Master. In iPhoto when you make an edit the original is retained as is, and iPhoto creates a second copy of the photo which is what you edit. Because of this differing approach your iPhotos Events, which are now Projects in Aperture, will contain two copies of every photo you ever edited in iPhoto. The original unedited version and the copy which was the final results of your edits. If you are happy with these edits and won't ever want to go back, you can delete the originals. I spent quite a bit if time deleting these duplicate photos in all of the imported projects. Aperture does add keywords to help you tell which is which: "iPhoto Original" and "iPhoto Edited". Also remember to empty the Aperture trash (found in the Aperture Menu).
Good luck with the transition. You've got a bit of tedious work ahead of you, but the end results are well worth the efforts. I am so happy I made the change.
Jim
http://web.me.com/jmahoney
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Failed import from iPhoto to Aperture - what's the best solution?

Hello
After some years of using iPhoto I recently upgraded to Aperture 3.2.2. In connection with that and before opening Aperture, I bought a new external hard drive and moved my iPhoto library to it, following Apple's instructions on how to move an iPhoto library to a different drive.
When I opened Aperture and was given the option to import my iPhoto library (of some 30,000 images), I chose, because I thought it was safer, to allow Aperture to access the images in my iPhoto library as referenced images rather than to store them in the Aperture library.
Unfortunately, the import was incomplete. I decided to try to import again, in the same way, to see if that would result in my having all of the iPhoto images. The re-import was also incomplete. Worse than that, although I had told Aperture not to import duplicates, it imported for a second time many of the images that it imported the first time. I now have in Aperture two separate large but incomplete iPhoto libraries.
After this, I learned that before using an external drive with Aperture I should have formatted it to Mac OS Extended, which I had not done. Other research I have done suggests that a surprising number of people have significant problems in trying to move iPhoto libraries to Aperture, but I have not found a case that addresses my problem.
My idea now, subject to any advice anyone can give me, is to move the iPhoto library back to the Mac's hard drive (there is enough room, but little spare), delete everything on the external drive, format the external drive to Mac OS Extended, re-organise some of the iPhoto events, 'delete' the 'contents' of the Aperture library (without affecting of course the contents of the iPhoto library) and try again (possibly by importing the iPhotos this time on an event by event basis).
Is this a good idea? If so, I would be grateful for any suggestions about how to take these steps. In particular, the step of deleting the contents of the Aperture library without affecting the iPhoto library. Are there other better ideas? If so, what?
Thanks very much in advance for any help anyone can offer.

My idea now, subject to any advice anyone can give me, is to move the iPhoto library back to the Mac's hard drive (there is enough room, but little spare), delete everything on the external drive, format the external drive to Mac OS Extended, re-organise some of the iPhoto events, 'delete' the 'contents' of the Aperture library (without affecting of course the contents of the iPhoto library) and try again (possibly by importing the iPhotos this time on an event by event basis).
If there is nothing in your Aperture library that you need to keep, that is a good strategy.
But some suggestions:
Before you move your iPhoto Library from its current location (which will render the Aperture library useless, because it is referencing inside iPhoto), check if you accidentally have imported any images as managed into Aperture: create a smart album with the rule "File status is managed" at the top level of the library albums. This way you will see, if you have any images only in Aperture, that need exporting, before you delete the library.
Also right now the best option to import from iPhoto into Aperture is by importing complete libraries, not single iPhoto events or albums. If you import Libraries, Aperture can combine the iPhoto Originals and the edited versions into "Master-Version" pairs and save considerable space. This is only possible by importing the complete library, for more deatails see this recent thread:
Correct Answer Re: Aperture Loses iPhoto Edited Images
I advise against referencing the masters inside iPhoto, for it is risky. If you open iPhoto and accidentally edit or modify the referenced master in any way, then the reference will be broken. It would be safer by far to create a backup copy of your iPhoto Library and to import the image files into Aperture or to relocate the imported files as referenced masters somewhere else, after you imported them.
Post back, if you have more questions.
Regards
Léonie

Importing photos from iphoto into aperture

Hi
I am currently importing my photos one album at a time from iphoto into aperture as this is what I was told is the best way to do it. My organization up to now ***** so I am trying to organize everything now. But I have pictures in my iphoto library that were never put into an album, so how will I be sure that I have all the photos imported into aperture before I delete them???? Also how can you tell if all the pictures in a project are in an album? I had a picture in 2 different albums and deleted it from one album but it deleted it from both - what did i do wrong??

You may want to invest a tiny bit of time reading something like this before you put a whole bunch of time into organizing things in Aperture:
http://photo.rwboyer.com/2008/07/apple-aperture-21-organization/
RB

Importing masters from iPhoto to Aperture 3 and saving as referenced files on external drive

I'm making the move from iPhoto to Aperture 3.I'm new to Aperture 3 and want o make sure I am importing and saving correctly. So far, I have imported my library of events from iphoto to Aperture 3. I understand that for the most part, it makes sense to house this library on an external drive as "referenced files" vs within Apeture as "managed files." I'm not clear on exactly how to accomplish this set-up. Is this something I should have set-up when doing the initial import or can I move the files now? Once this is done, when importing new files, how do I import to Aperture 3 but save on external drive?
Thanks in advance for your help!

A fabulous answer:
In the olden days ( ) when hobbyists made their own telescopes from kits, everyone wanted a six-inch lens, and the kit makers shipped six-inch lens blanks. Which the hobbyists used to learn lens grinding. Which is arduous and requires skill. Which the hobbyists didn't have until they'd ground that six-inch blank -- an expensive piece of high-quality material at the time -- into a lumpen flawed approximation of a good lens. Then the hobbyists would contact the kit makers and ask for another lens-blank, so they could build their telescope. At which point they would drop the project because the six-inch lens blank cost so much. And much calumny was rained on the kit manufacturers.
Now the kit manufacturers wanted to promote a hobby, and make, in addition to telescope kits, money (not calumny), so they together and separately hit upon the idea of supplying the hobbyist with _two_ lens blanks: a four-inch blank, and a six inch blank. Nobody wanted a four-inch telescope -- but that's not what the blank was for. The instructions read (I've shortened this part) "Grind the four-inch blank into the most perfect lens you can. Check it and re-check it. Now throw it out. You likely now have the skill to grind the six-inch blank into a useable lens."
Thus endeth our fable.
The point, of course, is: start small and gain skill before committing time and material to a task. Port just a small sub-set of you photos into Aperture. Experiment with it. Try different workflows. Think about how to best use the containers and organization tools Aperture provides. Develop a long-term naming convention for files and Projects. Work out a back-up strategy that is scalable and that you will stick with. My specific recommendation for beginners is: don't worry about Referenced v. Managed at first. Make all your Masters Managed. When you have your four-inch Aperture Library all smooth and even, put the entire thing in the system trash -- and then you can start working on an Aperture Library fit for your photos -- one that will allow you to see far, and clear, for years.
Good luck.

Moving from iPhoto to Aperture with limited drive space

My biggest concern is the lack of space on my MacBook Air.
I have already purchased and download Aperture.
In the Import window I see the "move files" radiobutton and the "copy files" radiobutton under the "Store Files:" dropdown, but they are disabled.
As I understand if I just import my IPhoto Library, it will duplicate the files into the Aperture Library, and that wont work since my current library (iPhoto) is way bigger than my freespace in disk.
Buying external drive is not an option now since I im saving to buy a NAS that will solve my space problems in the near future.
What i would like to achieve is just to move all my iPhoto Library to Aperture Library. I wont use iPhoto anymore.
Can someone help me with this? Im really looking forward to use Aperture....

Hello Richieto,
I have already purchased and download Aperture.
In the Import window I see the "move files" radiobutton and the "copy files" radiobutton under the "Store Files:" dropdown, but they are disabled.What i would like to achieve is just to move all my iPhoto Library to Aperture Library. I wont use iPhoto anymore.
Set the "storeFiles" selector to "in their current location".
Have you seen this support article. Moving from iPhoto to Aperture - How to move http://www.apple.com/aperture/iphoto-to-aperture/how.html
If you follow these instructions, you will import your iPhoto Library by referencing - that means, all images remain in your iPhoto library; your iPhoto Library will remain unchanged, but Aperture references the files in in the iPhoto Library. This will save disk space; your images will be stored only once: Set the "Store Files" selector to "in their current location".
If you decide to do it this way, make sure you have a working backup of your iPhoto library. Also remember at all times that your master image files now are managed independently by two applications, that do know nothing of what the other app does and are not synchronized. So you must not move the iPhoto library, and you must not delete any images that are shared by both applications. Other than that this way to import from iPhoto will be the best deal, if you need to be frugal with disk space.
What i would like to achieve is just to move all my iPhoto Library to Aperture Library. I wont use iPhoto anymore.
Once you are happy with the way Aperture handles the images you can copy your iPhoto library to a backup location and consolidate the master image files (File -> consolidate) by moving them from your iPhoto Library into the Aperture Library. This will delete them from iPhoto and store them inside the Aperture Library package. Then delete the iPhoto Library after testing that the consolidation was successful.
I im saving to buy a NAS that will solve my space problems in the near future.
Just a caution - you should not use the NAS to store the Aperture library - an Aperture library needs to bestored on a local volume formatted MacOS X extended.
Regards
Léonie

Upgrade from iPhoto or Aperture 2 library?

I have Aperture 2 installed alongside iPhoto. The libraries are nearly identical with some recent shots since yearend in iPhoto but not yet transferred to Aperture 2, but they easily could be. I have purchased Aperture 3, and I am wondering am I better off upgrading from iPhoto or Aperture 2? I am running the latest software for OS X and for both applications. Any thoughts? Thanks!

Either would do but Aperture is more capable overall - a pro app vs the consumer iPhoto). Since you bought Aperture it would seem sensible to use that. No advantage I can think of to using both which I think is a recipe for confusion.

Imported from iPhoto to Aperture by mistake

Well not completely by mistake, but regret that I did so. I'm not sure if I'll be using Aperture longterm. I need to check it out first and out of curiosity I imported my entire library from iPhoto int Aperture.. now I have duplicate photos on this computer. How do I delete the ones in Aperture, keep the ones in iPhoto while trusting that I'm not going to lose those precious pictures?
Part 2: If I decide that I like Aperture, is it recommended that I reference the photos in iPhoto or go ahead and make new masters then delete the iPhoto library?

You have done one of two things:
1. You have imported the iPhoto Library while copying the files into the Aperture Library - note that's copy, your iPhoto Library is untouched.
Trashing the Aperture Library will remove the copied files it contains.
2. 1. You have imported the iPhoto Library while referencing the files in the current location (i.e.within the iPhoto Library)
Trashing the Aperture Library will remove the references and leave your iPhoto Library untouched.
There are no other places the files might be.
Regards
TD

Transferring from iPhoto to Aperture, Deleted Library Too Early

I'm currently moving my entire 20GB photo library from iPhoto to Aperture. I imported all of the photos to Aperture, checked that they all worked right. After playing around with the program some, I decided I really liked it, and (stupidly) deleted my iPhoto library because I figured I was done with it. I later realized that there's one more step I needed to take, that of "Consolidating Masters." Now when I click this, it tells me there's no reference files, of course.
Here's the thing. All of my pictures are actually in the Aperture library. What does "consolidating masters" do, and how do I get around it and get the pictures to actually appear in my Aperture library, instead of just their current limbo state? Any help is appreciated!

When you imported from iPhoto, did you choose to store the files in their current location, or did you choose to store them in the Aperture library? If you chose the latter, then yes, they are in Aperture library package so there are no referenced files because they are all in your library already. You would have only had to consolidate if you had chosen to store the files in their current location which would have been in the iPhoto library.
Check out this part of the Aperture manual.

Migration from iPhoto to Aperture

Hello,
I just moved from iPhoto to Aperture. I did the migration described here : http://www.apple.com/aperture/iphoto-to-aperture/how.html but it failed at the last step.
I choosed “Consolidate Masters for Library” and I get this error message (sorry it's in French).
Are you able to help me ?
Thanks,
Wistiti

It appears that the error you are getting is telling you that the selection does not have any referenced masters. This can only mean that when you imported your iPhoto library into Aperture you choose to move or copy the masters into aperture.
As a test go to the Library tab of the Inspector, select the Photos icon near the top of the list. Go to the right hand side of the window. Click the dark magnifying glass:
Select the Add Rule pulldown and add File Status to the filter. Select Managed this will show you all the images in the library that are managed. You can also select Referenced to see all the images that are referenced.
If the files are already managed you don't need to do anything else.

Webgalleries from iPhoto to Aperture

Hi, I imported my library from iPhoto to Aperture however the webgalleries weren't copied so I have no way of adding to them. Under webgalleries in preferences there is nothing showing up...
Any ideas?
thanks

Sorry, I guess I misunderstood. I am learning by trial and error myself. I was trying to import my web gallery into Aperture as well for editing purposes, thinking the integration of the two apps would just update/upload the changes when I went back into iPhoto. Apparently this isn't the case. Having just done this today, I was able to import the web gallery as previously mentioned. Although, like you said, it just becomes a regular album and is not imported as a "web gallery" in Aperture. The apps do seem to differentiate between what is published as an iPhoto gallery as opposed to an Aperture gallery. I suppose the only reason you would need to upload the whole gallery again is if you are truly wanting it to be an Aperture gallery and are planning to use Aperture exclusively.
Sorry for the long post. Again, I too am learning...
I just downloaded the Aperture Manual. Hopefully it will shed some light on this subject!

Drag from iPhoto to Aperture

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