Drop in Speed between airport express and express

Hi all
I am quite new to this apple networking and got an issue to ask.
This is my environment. I am using 10mbps adsl. The encryption is WPA-2 Personal. All devices are using static IP. Airport extreme is 5th Generation and Airport express is 2nd generation with latest firmware.
I am connecting from my modem to airport extreme (using 2.4GHz on Channel 8) and to airport express (EX2). The location is about 70m away with 1 wall in between. I am able to achieve around 9-10mbps.
From Ex2, I join it using "Join to wireless network" and connect with physical straight cable LAN to WAN of another airport express (EX3). EX2 is on automatic channel for both 2.4GHz and 5 GHz (automatic as I cant change them). I set EX3 as "extend wireless network and is (using 2.4GHz on Channel 8).
I use airport express (EX1) and place it about 50m away. There is one server room with many networking devices in it. EX1 is on automatic channel for both 2.4GHz and 5 GHz (automatic as I cant change them).
Now I did a speed test on EX1 location and can only achieve 1.5-2.5mbps. I did a wifi detection test and there are many networking devices on channel 6 and 11 with few on channel 1-5.
I did tried to change manually for the 2.4GHz channels from 1-13 and 5GHz channels. The test speed results remain the same 1.5-2.5mbps at EX1.
Now my question is if I extend from airport express (EX3) to airport express (EX1), will it cause a drop n speed at EX1? Or was it due to the server room that causes the poor performance? I do not have access to the server room nor those devices in the room.

It presumably depends on what existing Av kit you have and how you plan to control things.
Neither AppleTV2 or Airport Express have in-built amplification for speakers.
AppleTV2 would require speakers with an optical input to work unless you wer eusing it with a Tv and Tv speakers. In addition current software prevents optical working well unless HDMI also connected.
Airport Express has a combined miniToslink/analogue stereo audio out 3.5mm socket and if using for audio only would avoid the potential HDMI issues I mentioned above.
Other things to consider would be speakers like B&W Zeppelin Air with in-built Airplay for audio and powered speakers.
Apple's Remote app for iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch would be an excellent way to control multiple Airport devices played from iTunes.
AC

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