Drop shadow across spread

I have applied a drop shadow to an image which has been placed across a spread. The drop shadow displays as expected on the screen and when exported as a PDF, however when the spread prints from InDesign extra shadow is added down the middle of the spread where the two pages meet. How do I stop this from happening?

Nope there are only two images with drop shadows on the spread, and neither of them is on the place where the shadow is appearing.
I have narrowed down the problem - the issue doesn't occur when the spread is printed via 'print'. It occurs when the exact same spread is printed using the 'print booklet' setting, which is unfortunately the setting that I need to be using.
Is there some hidden setting somewhere in print booklet that I need to change?

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I have a book file that is giving me a pretty hard time. There are several master page spreads that do not show as spreads in the book file. The left page from one set of masters with the right page from another set. There is a grouped row of circles that has drop shadow applied that appears on several master spreads. This is built as two groups that meet in the gutter to give the appearance of a row all the way across the spread. When the group is on the gutter between the two pages of the master spread, The object will show up on the both pages of the book spread, on top of the data from the left page master. If we shut off the drop shadow, no problem. If we move the group 0p5 away from the gutter no problem. The problem is that in the end we want this element to have a drop shadow and to run into the gutter.
Does InDesign count the spread of the object effect as part of the object itself? That seems like what is happening. Is there a fix (work around) for this?

The easiest workaround I know of is to paste the object with the drop shadow inside another box such that you can clip it at the gutter. We've cursed this "feature" for years.

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Rank newbie question here:
I'm trying to copy a popular web site look that has a subtle
drop-shadow effect along the left and right edges of centered web
site content. It looks as if a page of paper is centered in the
browser and the edges of the paper are casting a slight shadow.
I've done this with a background graphic that spreads across
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Something like this:
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> Rank newbie question here:
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> I'm trying to copy a popular web site look that has a
subtle drop-shadow
> effect along the left and right edges of centered web
site content. It
> looks
> as if a page of paper is centered in the browser and the
edges of the
> paper are
> casting a slight shadow.
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> I've done this with a background graphic that spreads
across the full
> width of
> a table, but this seems kind of clunky and I suspect
there's a much more
> elegant solution. Any suggestions?
>

Indd 5.5: When using drop shadow or lower opacity in object, I lose fills

I have ugraded to InDesign 5.5 (v. 7.5) for Mac OS. Here is my problem: If I have object "A" with transparency (lower than 100% opacity) or a drop shadow (which also uses a transparency) overlapping object "B", then "B" loses it fill when printing to a Xerox Phaser 7760GX. The fills appear fine when exporting to a pdf and when printing from the pdf. They also appear fine when printing on BW HP printer (sans the color, of course).
The file performs the same when I open on other computers with their own InDesign application. One of my colleagues has updated v. 7.5.1 but still has same problem.
So far, I have:
exported to IDML file and reopened the file in InDesign 5.5
purged all inDesign preferences
downloaded latest printer driver
following Adobe troubleshooting instructions, isolated the Transparency as the cause
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Some printers just don't get along well with ID. Exporting PDF and printing that is the normal workaround.

Drop Shadow pdf issue

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I'm trying to export a High Quality print Photoshop pdf with 7.5pt Helvetica LT Std white text with a 0.1mm drop shadow. The problem is that when I export it the drop shadow comes out unevenly (some letters/words/lines are bolder than others). I have tried changing font to Gautami, and also reducing the shadow to 0.075mm but with no joy. I have tried it in Illustrator and InDesign as well but with the same result.
Has anyone come across this before or got any ideas?
Cheers
Sean

Just to make sure: The issue persists at larger zoom values?
I am not sure but it might be an unfortunate combination of type/vector and pixels.
If you could tolerate a sharp shadow one possible workaround might be to duplicate the Type Layer, make the lower one black and offset it manually.
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Type > Convert to Shape
and check if the shadow goes better with this in the pdf. Of course the text would not be searchable anymore …

Logo with Drop Shadow on Unwhite Background

This is simplified for this discussion. Imagine a logo that's a yellow circle with a line of red type across the center of the circle slightly wider than it's diameter. Now apply a black drop shadow to the type. I did this in ID CS4 and brought it into Illy, converted it all to outlines and made a few tweaks. All is fine if the logo is on a white background, But if it's not, there is a white box around on the drop shadow where the type is wider that the circle.
Is there such a thing as a vector drop shadow?
In most instances, I will be using this in other ID programs so I might be able to bypass the Illy step and just copy the logo from one ID document to another. But the logo is also being sent out to others to use and their backgrounds might not be white.
Suggestions?

There is nothing wrong with drawing spot graphics in InDesign. (Why do you think it has tools for doing so?)
I did this in ID CS4 and brought it into Illy
What does "brought it into" mean?
If you copied/pasted, check your InD clipboard prefs. Do you have the option for copying PDF content turned on?
The reason such things work from AI to InD is because InD is importing the PDF content embedded in the AI file (or copied to the clipboard). The same thing works in the opposite direction.
But going either direction, the conversion to PDF "normalizes" the objects that are created using app-specific features. So so-called "live effects" become simpler constructs. The kind of constructs PDF can handle differ with the various versions of PDF, too.
Is there such a thing as a vector drop shadow?
Of course there is.
The more pertinent question is "Is there such thing as vector transparency?", which is necessary for the soft-edged fuzzy effects which most people mean nowadays when they say "drop shadow." The two shadows above are all vector. The top hard-edged one was created by the Drop Shadow Filter. The soft-edged fuzzy one is a Blend. They were drawn in Illustrator, exported to PDF (without AI editability), and then opened again in AI. They were still all vector objects after the round-trip to PDF.
So can the rasterization of transparency applied to vector objects be postponed until RIP time? (Everything is eventually rasterized—it's a question of when.) Evidently so. Again, the capabilities would differ between different PDF and (I assume) Postscript versions.
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I see the problem for one thing when yo give the feather a large setting it extends beyond the the shape that it is generated by so it is actually expanding beyond what a pears to be a clipping path that is totally invisible as well as extending to the opposite direction of the direction of the offset.
You can draw a shape that can mask the edges showing and make a clipping mask.
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This is puzzling as I swear I read somewhere this was fixed?
This is what a drop shadow looks like when created with a feathered rectangle of course you have more control this way as you can resize the shadow to give it a more realistic feel as a shadow would be larger then the original shape.
So the way they should fix this is to also have a setting for the clip as well as a setting for the size of the shadow or if the wish distance from object calculation.
So the feather technique also gives you the option of adjusting the placement of the shadow in a manually tactile manner. You should probably group the two once you finished or make it a symbol as Mordy points t making these types of object symbols are useful
and can come in handy especially if youy want to export to Flash at sometime in the future.
Anyway I am going to add these ideas to my feature request for cast shadows and other enhamcements to the shadow effect.
You can all do so as well.

Drop shadow from one master appearing on a page with a different master CS5

I have a series of curriculum books that make use of two different page styles controlled by two masters. On occasion in the books, the two masters appear side by side in a spread. Both masters contain similar background graphics but one has more side margin than the other. In the instance where the side margin appears on the left hand page, the drop shadow from a background element on the full page master appears on the bigger margin page. The actual object that has the shadow is not there, but the shadow is. This only happens when the margin is on the left; the shadow does not appear when the masters are side by side in a spread and the wide margin is on the right. See attached image.
I can split the pages apart and the shadow goes away, but this gets to be a pain when text reflows and I have to change the pages around. Any idea how I can keep this ghosted effect from appearing where it isn't supposed to be?
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Check the position of the edge of the cropped frame. I had a problem when it wasn't dead on the spine and the frame had the shadow applied...
Further investigation pasting the shadowed frame into another and cropping that reproduces your error, but good news, I think. If you select the cropped frame and pick a proxy point that is supposed to be on the spine, then subtract an infinitesimal amount, like .0001 from the x coordinate to move it left, or add the same if you need to move the right half right, ID will round the result back to the original dimension, but the ghost will disappear.
At least it seems to work for me on two-page lettersize spreads working with rulers in inches.
I think this is a bug, and I think we've discussed it before and I stumbled on the same solution last time.

How do I achieve this type of extreme subtle drop shadow using Photoshop?

I cannot for the life of me recreate this effect and it's driving me insane.
http://justpuretaste.com/ - the header logo where it says "Just Pure Taste" as well as the "We are Taste Architects" as well as the "Experts in Food & Beverage" appear to have some sort of drop shadow applied to it. This was not done using CSS since this is an actual background image. I would love to know how to create this effect on a consistent basis.
I haved played around with the settings for drop shadow and using opacity: 100, 70, 50, 20, along with distance set to 1, and spread/size set to 0, I still cannot get what I want.
If anyone can help me out I would really appreciate it. If no one here can, could you guys please point me in the right direction like another forum or something. Thank you!

You see, sometimes I see that and other times I don't. I'm not sure if the text being over a really subtle gradient causes the eyes to see things, kind of like an optical illusion you know? But it just seems to be a very common design practice, especially the stuff I'm finding over at dribbble. I've also tried the 1-2 px distance with a 90 degree angle but my stuff never looks the same. I'm just unsure if I'm not doing something or this is some kind of trade secret that designers use and don't wish to divulge.

"scratches" on graphics and strange drop shadow

I am using Indesign CS3 on Windows XP.
I am making an entry form for a bike race. There are 4 photos on the cover - all the same odd shape - a rounded lumpy shape. All have the same drop shadow. I can't understand why one of the drop-shadows is different from the other three, when all have the same shape exactly and have received the same treatment. It looks as though the bottom is cut off the bottom of the shadow. Instead of a nice feathered off shadow there is a hard sharp cut-off at its lowest point under the photo.
Also when I print to pdf, I get the appearance of straight fine scratches across the graphics in odd places on the .pdf as though it has been scratched with a knife. (I am printing a best quality .pdf.)
I work alone at my home in the wilds of New-Zealand so there is nobody for miles I can ask for help, in fact there is nobody for miles full stop.

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I am trying to make the drop shadow on this site (temporary location) darker. I used a method I learned but just have the gif file so I need to recreate the file. I've tried creating the canvas (1034 x 6959) then drawing a rectangle the same size leaving a bit of space on the bottom and right and then adding a Filter > Drop Shadow to the rectangle and making the transparency high so that it will be dark, but either the canvas shows (I did Fit Canvass too) or it's grainy or not dark enough or all of it. Is there a way to create this file but darker and less grainy?
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The reason you can't just darken his image is that, being very light, there are probably only a few colors in it. When you darken it, you don't have a gradient between the darker grey and white, you have maybe just 3 or 4 dark greys. Darkening his image is not a useful way to go.
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Export as a GIF. Your corners will be transparent.
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hello indesigners.
i am applying a drop shadow to a text frame,and its getting applied to other text frames on the spread,and also i can see a slight colour change to my images as well.
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thank you.

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lesnicole wrote:
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Something is there, why can't it be seen?
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