Dropped Frames -- Releted to Capture?

I was quickly working on a project for old friends, which I have now easily been able to finish to satisfaction, but got some dropped frames warnings during the process, which it did not hurt to ignore. Now I want to analyze why this happened?
I had some previously footage on DV tape that had been copied from VHS, via VCR to camcorder in VTR mode -- no problem with these in FCP, utilizing In/Out timecodes. However I had to quickly review a lot more old VHS tapes, and chose to use my Canopus ADCV 110 to allow for rapid review and selective capture. Furthermore, it seemed much easier to do this in iMovie HD, capture selectively, and then export as QT dv, and import into FCP. All this seemed to work, and I could edit. But exclusive to those clips captured in iMovie and exported, I started to get this warning about dropped frames.
Was this caused by the path of capture/export directly, or did the fact that I exported to the same scratch disk drive as those clips captured directly in FCP matter? Although using my new Mac Pro, I was still using my LaCie FW 800 disk as capture scratch. Is it the lack of timecodes on those assets captured via the Canopus, and should I expect the same issues if I capture via the Canopus, but in FCP? Part of the reason I used iMovie to capture, was I couldn't figure out how to monitor the sound from the VCR, which had no headphone jack, if reviewing via the Canopus and FCP.
I love the Canopus, but have not made extensive use of it in this situation. However, I believe it actually gave better quality than "remastering" to DV tape, first, btw.
Ernie

I have also come to the same conclusion. I've been capturing video just fine and now I get this "dropped frames during capture" error message.
SAME computer
SAME external 7200 rpm drive for capture
SAME fire-wire cable
SAME camcorder
SAME mini-dv tape
I upgraded to OS 10.4.9 and iTunes 7.1.1 a few days ago and only now am I receiving this error message. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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Sorry, I'm running my camera through the firewire device....and capturing all the media to my internal hard drive.
The only hope you have is that you can capture directly to the system drive. To do this, just plug the camera into the computers FW port. Disconnect any other FW devices including the external drive.
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