DRQ# Approval Process Does Not Fire on Update of Document

Hi,
If a purchase order is added for a value which does not require approval, then later the actual price of the order is known and is a value which requires approval, the user is able to update the purchase order without an approval procedure being triggered.
Note #925685 states that approvals will not trigger on update, however this means a user can modify documents to a value which should require an approval process.
Lianne

Hi Lianne and Davis,
I was wondering if you already found a solution for this problem.
Unfortunately I did not found your post about the approval process.
( Re: 925685 - Approval process is not triggered after documents are added )
Do you know if this is solved within 8.81 or did you find another solution?
Kind regards,
Marcel Kieboom

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