DSP3: Multi Language DVD Menus

Hi All,
here I am to tell about my doubt in the an International DVD authoring, trying to figure out the correct workflow procedures.
So I have 7 languages, 5 menus and 1 video with 7 subtitles stream.
In my case, I'd like to use the internal language menu layout that could be great,
but I think that can be used only with the internal DVD player language configuration.
I'd like to put a language selection menu at start-up, instead, how can I do?
The Apple manual is very light in this section...
Many Thanks an advance and best regards.
Paul

last time i had to make a multi language dvd i dropped the language in DVD SP and managed it with GPRM from the first language select menu.
Also tutorial here http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/dvd_languagenattress.html, looks the same as my workflow.

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Not sure if you text is in the footage itself or not. Sounds like a not? You may need to use something like stories to route the footage to the proper places. (If the clips are the same lengths there are other tricks to try.)
In this [link|http://dvdstepbystep.com/stories_details.php] there is information on using stories with different subtitles and audio tracks and [here|http://dvdstepbystep.com/audioset.php] is a general way to use scripts to track preferences.
Using those techniques you can send people back to where they came from. In other words in the second link it is audio on/audio off. But you can do the same thing and put languages in there, so based on the selection you can read it and send them back. Or if using stories, you can set the end jump for the story back to where to go.
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Maybe, you have iDVD on your hard-drive, or on some of your older installer disks.
Export your project in its two versions. (btw: FCPX' feature of 'Roles' is of great help doing so.... with one click, you not only change audio, but titles, …)
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Second: Create all your menus (in different VTSMs if you like, especially if content differs. It is not necessarily to do so). Create "Master" menu with language choices. Branch from it to language sets. Use "Display condition" in the advanced tab for tracks and menus for navigation tracking. Saves tons of redundant scripting.
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Sure, I didn't mean it in a bad way (calling on Apple people)! Anyway, I sure hope you all are more experienced than me, otherwise we are all in trouble...
I had read through all the threads and articles Drew linked to, but I was still confused.
I was stuck on thinking that having the same menu in different language versions would be the way to go (chapter 10 in the manual, heading "Using Languages With Menus", kind of suggests this), instead of having multiple menu trees but each one in a separate language. I think it was referred to here
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=1940865
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I have created a mixed angle DVD that went to replication successfully but getting the mpegs right was very difficult. In the end I had to re-install DVDSP3 onto my system for two reasons 1) The only way my mpegs would work was if they were created thru Quicktime Mpeg Exporter which DVDSP4 removes, and 2) after I got it all working in DVDSP3 then tried to rebuild it in 4 it would not recognise my V2 or V3 angles - I didn't get any errors and it muxed ver quickly but only V1 was present. I have not been able to create a multi angle disc in DVDSP4 SD, even with mpegs that build successfully in 3.
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